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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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Severance Season 2 - Week 25: Episode 2
Severance Season 2 - Week 25: Episode 2
Half Life 2 RTX, Ever After, Severance Season 2
00:00 - Half Life 2 RTX
16:16 - Ever After
30:19 - Severance Season 2
everybody. It is onscreen offscreen back with another episode. I am pumped to hear what Josh thinks about this. I, I've seen a little bit on it, but really I haven't played it. I've seen a small video. Literally. That's it. Go ahead, Josh. Mm-hmm.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Uh, so my topic is Half-Life, two RTX. Um, they are using the NVIDIA remixes technology. For anybody who's played or knows of portal RTX, it's a very similar process to kind of revive these old games. The technology is super cool. I, I think it's absolutely amazing. It's astounding. I love that people are forming their own little developer groups to revive these old games.'cause so many old games are so great but are like. Oblivion, which are just like unplayable mechanics wise, and it's hard to bring in new people because it looks old. So reviving these old games and bringing in new people to get to know these things. Very cool. I am one of them. I didn't play the half-life games as a kid.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Oh, cool.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:So this is my first time experiencing the half Lifeness. Um, other than half-life, Alex, I have played that, uh, half-life, two RTXI. It's free anybody who wants to play it, it's free on Steam. Um. I watched the LTT video on this, and that was their whole big point was like, Hey, it has some problems, but if it brings in some new people to appreciate this old game, an old story, it would be really, really great. I was like, I've been meaning to play it. It's been on my two playlist for like 15 years. Maybe it's time I give this game a shot, so I added it to my library, downloaded it, started playing it. Everything LTT says about it is absolutely right. It looks amazing. Uh, they added the ray tracing to the game, which makes everything way more dynamic lighting wise. They redid all the models and all the textures and everything. Looks really, really great. However, it's not good enough yet, so I played for, lemme pull up my play time. I think it's about two hours. And I started getting nauseous in games, which doesn't happen to me all the time. It happens to me when I play like Mirrors Edge.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Okay.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:But most of the time I'm pretty good with games like. We're gonna talk about a game in our next episode, and I played that for an obscene amount of time, um, in a very short period of time. Um, I put, I played it for 45 minutes. I didn't even make it to an hour. I'm 46 minutes into the game, and it started to make me feel nauseous.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Why? Why do you think that was? Like what was causing it?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I don't know, like I really, I cannot pinpoint what exactly it is. So like in vr, if I'm stationary or have teleport, I'm fine, but if I have to move, it makes me feel motion sick. I can play other fast paced games, but Mirror's Edge makes me sick 100% of the time. It's a fantastic game that I have never been able to beat because it makes me feel that way. Um, I don't know if it's frame stuttering, which does happen occasionally. I don't know if what it is about the game, about the, maybe the motion settings. I wish you had more control over the settings, like being able to turn off motion blur. Maybe that would help. I don't know. My computer runs it just fine. Um. Yeah, overall, I still think it's a very cool project. Um, I'm gonna try playing it again. Maybe it was just that one time, maybe I was dehydrated or, um, empty stomach. I'm not sure I want to keep trying it. I want to keep playing it. But so far, halflife two is really interesting. You start off the game with that gravity gun, cutting those things in half with the the saw blades. It's such a cool sequence so far. I've loved the puzzles. I just got to the part where you get the shotgun. So very early on in this game, very interested. Love the half-life world. I love Half-Life, Alex. I love the portal. Games Valve tends to do just a phenomenal job when it makes games. Um, excited to see what this whole. Spending of halflife two is that people are upset about Halflife three, four. Uh, hopefully I can get there.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Hopefully, uh, I think that is, it's pretty cool. Like the technology is pretty cool. Is this the whole game?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Mm-hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I. Or is it just part of the game?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Whole game.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Whole game. Very cool. Very cool. Um, there's a lot of other games that I hope that they do this with'cause it would just be awesome. There's a lot of old games that people just haven't played. A lot of options for growth.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Everybody go into your STEAM library, add it to your account, even if you don't play it, having that little like, it's like liking a YouTube video. It's just gonna incentivize them to do more. Maybe they'll make the game you want.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:What game do you want them to do this to?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:COT, tour. Let's be honest. Cot. Tour Republic. Commando, uh, Jedi.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Is there any game that you would do this to? Like would you be interested in, in actually doing this? No. Okay.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:It's way too much work.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I don't know how much work goes actually goes into it. I'm sure it's a ton.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Uh, you basically have to remodel all of your things and then add some new textures, and then the Nvidia remixes technology takes all of the old data and implements it into new data, and then you have to redo it again and then run it again. And it's a big process. It's a lot. Faster than, say, rebuilding the game from the ground up. Right. You can work with a development team of like 10 people, 20 people. I'm not sure how many did Halflife Alex? Two remix. Um, or Halflife two RTX. But it's a much smaller team. And they did it in like a year and a half, two years,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That's way shorter.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah. But like. Are there games I wish people would do this to. Absolutely. All of the Elder Scrolls games before Sky Room. Do this to it. Please give it this level of treatment. That would be super cool.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:it'd be cool to do it with the first two Ballers Gate games. Um. I mean like left for dead doesn't look horrible, but it's an old game now. It'd be sweet to do this too.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah, I think Left For Dead would be a prime candidate for this kind of a thing. Um. Add in a little bit of modern features and boom, you've got a, a top game for people to play online again. Um, there's tons, tons and tons and tons of old games, tons of games that need to be remade and brought back from the dead.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Halo, the original Halo games.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:They already did a redoing of it. It's fine.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah, it's, uh, this would look better than those,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Slightly.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:uh, all I quite a bit better. Um,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I think that Halo Re did, did a great job with it. They look like modern Halo. Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:okay.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:It's good. Uh, I want them to do, you know, battle for middle Earth too, but I don't think that this is good enough for that. So, um. Just remake that game or give me battle for Middle Earth three, please, and I will be happy.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Happy.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:separate conversation than the Nvidia remix stuff. So
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That's cool, man. I'm glad you get to play it. I did play it when I was a kid uh. Do you think that this has any indication that they might actually come out with three?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:no.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:No. Okay. I kind of don't either, but
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:It's not valve who did it. What would this have to do with valve?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:because if it's popular enough, I like it. Sparks interest into halflife again, halflife two again, and then people want three again. So maybe you actually put in the effort to make three. But at this point, no matter how good three is, everyone will hate it. So maybe it's just not worth doing. I don't know.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Okay, so here's my two questions.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Why didn't halflife Alex do that?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:One, I think it's because it's a VR game and the VR community as far as gaming goes is very small. I,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yes, but Halflife, Alex is the one that brought the attention, like, yes, I understand that like VR is a small portion of like, but not just VR people were into this game
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:and like I. For every vr, like that's also deceiving market share is VR'cause it's measuring number of headsets you've played half-life. Alex, do you have a headset?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:no.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:So it's not taking that into consideration at all.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:It's true.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Um, and it doesn't count people like me who played halflife, Alex, somewhere else. Now have headset. Like it's, it's a whole big thing and it's not completely accurate as to the VR ness of it, but like there's a version of it that people made not to play it in vr.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Oh, did they? I actually didn't know that was
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah, it's, it's like a mod version, but you play it with mouse and keyboard. So that you can still get your half-life, like this game was so big and drew so much attention that it increased the market share. I'm just guessing on numbers. People don't get too mad at me, but I'm guessing it took it from like 3% of people had VR set headsets to like 15% of people had VR headsets because of this one game.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:It was a huge game. As far as VR games, it is by far the biggest one by
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Like nothing even close.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Um, wow. Uh, of the gaming community, headship, ownership is 1.3%.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Okay. So I took it from like 0.3% to 1.3. Like that's
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:ton of people and like. Define gaming community? Like how many people are we talking about? Are we talking about people who just play Candy Crush on their phones too? Like
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That's true. That's true.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:right. What? What are we actually measuring? We need to have that conversation, but all that the same. My question to you is still the same. Why didn't Half-Life Alex Spark enough interest that to RTX would.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I don't know. I did hear more talks of like, is Halflife three ever coming out when Halflife pH came out? I don't know. I don't know.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I don't see this creating more attention than the Halflife Alex effect. I see it creating less attention because this is gonna be for people who have already played Halflife too, and just want to see the new version of it. And I don't think it's gonna be very effective at bringing more people into the halflife world. Than half-life. Alex was
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I can agree with that.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:my second question to you is since Valve has confirmed that there is a half-life three in the works,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:They did.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:yeah, like six months ago they were like, yeah, half five, three is being worked on.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Oh, cool.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:That doesn't mean they're ever gonna come out with it. And that might be in very vague terms like. They have an idea that is halflife valid or HALFLIFE three, like what does Halflife two RTX gonna do for that? Like, I still don't see how Halflife two, like if, if Valve had done this and Valve came out with a new version of Halflife two for modern gamers, I would be way more inclined to be like, yeah, they're working on Halflife three.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I think that there will be some people who play halflife two because of better graphics or just some people who do that kind of thing, uh, that wouldn't have done it otherwise. Like you. And for those people, it's going to make Halflife three and more exciting. if Halflife three does actually get, like, officially announced, this is coming out in 20 27, 20 28, 20 29, whatever. That a lot of people will play half-life to new version, and that will increase the excitement for the entire project and increase sales overall.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:You're right, that would happen if there was a release date. There's not a release date
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:version of Boulders Gate one and two, I think it would've, that would've also happened towards Ballards Gate three. You don't think so?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:now. I think half-life is the exception, not the rule.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Okay.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Who was talking about Balder's Gate three before Balder's Gate three?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:No, nobody,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Who's talking about Half-life? Alex, today,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:us
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:us and so many other people in the world who are like half-life. Three is the biggest missed sequel thing, right? Like we need half, like I hear that come up more than any other game. The second most is portal three.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yep.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:So like, valve clearly knows how to make a game, so they should just freaking make some games.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:left for dead. Three.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah. So yeah, that's, that's where I'm at with this, is just, it's cool. I love the technology. I love that they're doing it. I hope that they keep creating, recreating old games. My hope for them to inspire to make new games is not very high. But I hope it inspires them to keep remaking old ones because there's so many old games that just don't look good or have terrible mechanics.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I hope they do it too, man. With that, I'll go to my topic, um, ever after. Have you ever watched this movie?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Okay. Do you like it?'cause actually one I would've recommended to you if you hadn't seen it.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:it's good. It's one of the better Cinderella AP adaptations.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I think it's a, I, I liked it a lot. I hadn't seen it before this week, and I think that Drew Barry Moore does a really good job in the movie. Um, I've never, I've always liked Drew Barry Moore, but I've always just seen like, I like her. That's about it. Never thought she was a great actress or anything. I think she does a really good job in the show and deserves the credit that she gets. When, most of the time I think she's just an actress that happens to be likable, and that's about it. Um, I think the surroundings are really good. I feel like the, the movie, it's not, it's not Princess Bride. Princess Bride is a more of a comedy. But I can tell the person who directed this movie, they liked Princess Bride and they took some inspiration from the way things were shot and the feeling of Princess Bride to me. That's what I got from the show. I like the fact that the aren't just like ridiculous to be ridiculous. They're not like the wicked stepsisters that are just corny. They feel like more authentic, real people their wickedness. I like the stepmother and I, I like the aspect of. Does she hate Cinderella? Because in the dying moments of her father's death, he turned to Cinderella instead of turning to the stepmother who he's supposed to love and supposed to be married to, was there some kind of resentment and score there? What's going on? And like there, there's more of a depth to the character, but with that depth also comes more of a hit when she is cruel. This girl just wants some love from a mother.'cause no, no one's ever loved her. it opens her up to like really deep kinds of pain instead of it feeling more cartoonish and simple in the villainy. I like that aspect of the show. I think it's a I, I think it's a really good show. I was actually really impressed with it,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:That's totally understandable. I'm 100% with you. I think the highlights for me are the stepmother. Um,'cause in the original Cinderella, it never made sense to me why the stepmother was so cruel to
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Me either.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Cinderella because if she's that greedy, even though she wasn't her daughter, when she'd just take the throne, like when she builded her up just as much, I get preferring your biological daughter, but like the outright, just like you're a slave now. Never made sense to me. Um, so I love that they give her a reason to resent Cinderella. Um, and I love this. I think the next highlight is the, the stepsisters, mostly because they're not the same.'cause in most portrayals they're the same person. One is just fat. They're both the same personality. They both are ditzy and dumb. They both just want the crap. Right. And this one, you like the actress who plays Jacqueline? The the Fat Stepsister is my favorite actress in this
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:she's very
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:she does so much more with her lines and her role than anybody else. Right? Like. There's instant chemistry between her and the guy that she gets with at the end,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:and she gets like 15 minutes of screen time in the entire thing. But yet instantly when you see them together, you're like, oh, she doesn't care about the crown. And like, because she doesn't care so much about the crown. Right? There's also some resentment between the, the stepmother and her, right? Like you're only coming to for the food, right? So it, it builds these characters into intricate people, which I absolutely love. I think it's a great job. I love the, um, what are they called? The gypsies Pirate people,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Me too, and the
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:right?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:she picks him up was very
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:very
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Very funny, very great. Um, there's the scene where she escapes from the creepy dude and it gives very much Harley Quinn vibes. If you've seen that clip. I haven't seen the whole movie where she breaks out and she's like, I can go back in if you like, very much. Same vibes as like, I just got outta here myself. I didn't like that she actually got out of there by herself. That was very much girl boss to me. And I was like, okay.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:too.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Literally what can't you do if, because your dad taught you sword fighting when you were like eight, so now you can take on this guy. I, uh, anyway. Um. Highs and lows to the, the thing ever after is definitely above average top tier Cinderella story. Is it my favorite Cinderella thing? No, but it's good. I like it.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:It might be second favorite actually.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:What are your top two?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:favorite one is the second. Um, uh, another Cinderella story. That's my favorite one. It's partly nostalgia, but I do just, I love that one. I find it funny. I just really liked it. Uh, the other one would be the original, another Cinderella story. One one with Hillary Duff.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Duff. Yeah, so Hillary Duff ano a Cinderella story is my favorite Cinderella one because. Again, it makes the stepmother into a person with a reason to resent her.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Right? The reason I don't love another Cinderella story as much is because it doesn't address that, and it creates even more reason for the stepmother to be invested in her because if she really is that greedy and her stepdaughter really is that talented,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:If you would want to fo
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:you would.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:that and then
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Foster that and take it. You would wanna take from it. You wouldn't want to hammer it down and kill it. Like
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Fair enough. Like I, that is a good point. I just watched it so many times when I was a kid that there's it, there's just a love of it because of that.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:that's totally fair. That's totally fair. I, I am 100% with you. Like I agree with you. Um, and I still love it. It is still top tier. It's just I'm saying I would rank ever after slightly above this one. That one,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:um,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:act I, I really like El Enchanted a lot.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:that was my second favorite.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:that one might even be my favorite. I really like El Enchanted.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Ellen Enchanted is awesome. Ellen Enchanted is great because it does both the serious, um, Cinderella story while making fun of the Cinderella story.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:great
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:it very well. And, and Hathaway does a very good job in it. Like she's,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:and you get queen. Well, I, I don't wanna go that far. There is the part where she's dancing.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That's true. That's true. Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I'm not one to talk when it comes to dancing,'cause I for sure can't. But I can look at that and say that is not dancing.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:good. That's very true, man. But I, I liked this movie. The Girl Boss thing is really the only thing that kind of dragged me down for me. Other than that, that was great because she is just good at everything in the show. She's just good at everything and
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Right, but I don't think it crossed the line until that point. Right before that, she was this really interesting person. She just has a lot of these interests. She loves storytelling. She loves reading, right? Like Bell has a lot of those same talents and abilities because of her. Adventurous lifestyle. Right. But when she does the sword thing, it's like, okay,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:You're like, okay, come on.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:this is girl boss moment. I get it. Like, you want girls to be able to fight their own battles. We don't need no man. But um, that was the only part that kind of wrestling. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Probably trains most days with a sword to do the sword fighting. That's okay. It's, it's gonna be all right.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Uh, my other down thing for it is the prince.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Oh, really?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Okay. I don't
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:with.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:he is, he just doesn't make sense as a character often. He kind of just does what needs to do to fit the plot rather than being an interesting dynamic character person like you've done with all the rest of these people. He didn't get the same treatment.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I agree in one point in the movie, and it's my other, other kind of issue with it. This is the part where the wing gets ripped off and you find out who she is and he freaks out and I'm like, yeah, he had, I don't think he'd freak out. He'd just be like, talk to her. He seems like a reasonable person except for that one moment where he needs to not be reasonable. Then he's not, and yeah, that's, that's the one other area that I'm kind of, eh.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah, especially. Because she was just like, I need to talk to you
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yep.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:we need to talk before we do this. And he was rushing them and then this happens and he's like, you lied to me. And then Leonardo DaVinci's like, dude, she was about to tell you. And he's like, or was she gonna lie to me again? You are like, okay
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:No, obviously he was gonna tell you
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:girl, I'll do it.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:you're somebody who doesn't really care about the whole having to be another royal for me to marry you or be with you like you don't care about the commoner thing, but all of a sudden you super care about the commoner thing. doesn't make sense with your character. You wouldn't care. just be like, oh, you're a commoner, whatever. I like you. Cool.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:That doesn't take away from the experiences we've been having. The fact that we had the gypsies thing, the fact that you carried me the fact, you know, like
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:that wouldn't
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:had this night
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:change that.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:where neither of us were really acting as royals. We were in even normal clothes. Like who cares?
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah. So pros and cons. Pros and cons for sure. It's a great movie. I. It's, it's for sure top tier, um, early two thousands Cinderella stuff. It's great. I love it. What, what do you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Um, I was gonna get a high sevens, 7.8 some somewhere right in there. I like
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I thought it was a really good movie.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:I think it's a solid eight.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I would watch again by myself. I, that's how much I liked it,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Yeah, it's absolutely great. It's wonderful.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I don't have the emotional connection to another Cinderella story, not the first one. Cinderella story.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Cinderella story.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:A Cinderella story. I don't have the emotional connection to that one, so honestly that one's one I probably wouldn't watch by myself. I'll watch it'cause s loves it. Another Cinderella story, Ella Enchanted. And this one I would watch by myself again, personally.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:would watch any of those by myself, honestly.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Really, I, I would, I,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Wow. I
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:them.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:don't have any problem watching cheesy romance stuff. And like, again, I can't stress this enough. They make, I'm talking about us and Darella story, right? Like
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:stepmother more interesting. They make the sisters be different
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:they
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:and
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:good
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:the, they do all the good things. And at the end she even says like, maybe we won't live happily ever after. And that's okay.'cause this is just chapter one of my life, right?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Which is great. Like she acknowledges that this was just high school, which was also something I love about a Cinderella story.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That is a cool thing.'cause they never do that in any of those shows ever.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Well, they did that in ever after. I'm not sure if you caught it or not, but it's my next complaint about it. The movie literally ends with, and shouldn't we live happily ever after? And he says, who says that? She says, I don't know. And the movie ends. I'm like, so you're telling me that you had a, you're gonna have a terrible marriage.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I thought that
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:insinuating from this?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:like a parody thing on the whole Ever I or Fairytale thing. I thought it was actually kind of clever.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:It's a clever parody. The problem is, is if you take it like the whole movie hasn't been a parody.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:And then you
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:So if you take it on face value of these characters actually saying that, it's like they're saying. Now that we're actually together, this is gonna suck,
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:That's a good point. The rest of the movie isn't a parody and then you have that moment. That is a parody.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:right? Like, so that, that's like a nitpick right? Kind of a thing. But I, I still love the movie.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:All right, man. With that, let's go to our last topic, severance season two. What did you think about this season? And we'll talk about some particular episodes.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Love the season. Hit at the ending. Your turn.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:We definitely have something to talk about for sure.'cause I love the ending and I actually think it's better than season one, which no one thinks.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:That's'cause you're wrong. You are absolutely wrong.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:do not think I'm wrong on this. I think the ending is brilliant and very, like, just great. Um,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Where are they running to?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:What
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:Where are they running to?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:they're running to the, uh, the. Rebellion
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:They're running to the Innis Rebellion.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:what? End?
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:that's one of the interesting questions
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:It's not interesting. It's stupid
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:No, I think it's an interesting question'cause you have this any rebellion, but they literally can't leave the floor or they cease to be. So they are literally in prison, but it's the only place that they could stage the rebellion'cause it's the only place that they live. And that is a fascinating idea. Very cool. Go ahead.
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:so they can just turn off their S at any time. They can just turn off the nies.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:I know. I know. Which I actually think is part of an interesting aspect to it, because they're fighting a rebellion that seems absolutely hopeless. Really? It is hopeless, but they
josh-dietrich_2_03-26-2025_132701:why it's stupid. It is hopeless. They're not fighting anything. They're not fighting anyone.
konlin-gappmayer_2_03-26-2025_172654:They think they're fighting. have the,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:They believe that they are fighting and maybe the war is completely hopeless, they think they're trying to stay alive. They're trying to stay connected. They're trying to stay who they are. They're trying to against these people that have told them what to do and brainwash them kept to them small. And Mark, in that last moment, I would've been upset if he actually left the door that Mark wants to live. Maybe it's hopeless, maybe it's futile. But in that moment you would try to live regardless like it makes sense with the character.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:No it doesn't.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:it's great.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:No, it's terrible
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay. Tell me why it's terrible.'cause I think you are so rock. I.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:because the whole season is building up to them doing it, and one of the greatest sequences in the show is the part where Mark is talking to himself through the camcorder.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Like
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:is so good and any Mark decides to trust Audi Mark,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, it's amazing.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:which means any. Mark has decided to accept that he can live outside because he decided to trust Audi Mark.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:But there's still that fear, that fear isn't completely gone.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yes, But if you stay, you die Anyway.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:But you die with the person that you love. And even if you get that last, even if it's only on for five minutes, five minutes later, they just shut'em off and they basically die. They get five more minutes with the person that they love, and it's the person they love. mark, not the person that the Audi market, uh, loves.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I understand that when heli showed up in the hallway. Here's what I would have written.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Mark goes up to heli, says, I will try and find a way to bring you back, kisses her and then leaves.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Interesting. I wouldn't have done that.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I 100% would've
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:ended.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:because them running off into the hallway, it doesn't. Okay, so here's, here's
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:they're at, right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:If, if Mark leaves,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Mm-hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:there is roughly a. 70, 80% chance any Mark lives too and has a chance to bring back any heli. If any Mark stays inside and doesn't leave, there's like a 5% chance he gets five minutes with her and there's like a 70% chance that both any and Audi market killed. There's like a 30% chance that he goes to jail and dies, and Audi Mark is stuck in jail for killing that guy.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I know that it is, it's not logical and the way that you're, what you're presenting is more logical. That is a more sound argument. But I don't think it's a sound moment. lot of shit just happened to him. Like a lot of shit just happened
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:and he wants to be with the person that he loves and no, I don't think he's thinking logically. It is more logical to leave step outside of that door, he is not being logical in that moment. He's connecting with the person that he loves and he is just trying to spend some more time with her and figure out something on the inside while he is still him. The second he steps out that door. I don't think he believes he's going to continue to live. think he thinks he's going to die when he leaves heli to go down and save his, uh, to save his, his wife, her name is. Um, I think he believes that he is dying like this is him committing suicide. I don't think he believes he's going to continue living past his day.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:He, okay. I understand you're saying it's an emotional moment decision. That's why I'm saying the emotions should be to do something that actually gives you a chance to fight for it. Not go run down the hallway to nothing. And the show already established that any Mark decided to trust Audi Mark
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:and they discussed it and he and hee both decided that together. So him. betraying that. Is what I'm mad at. I literally hate Mark now.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I am so far away from this. Yes, they, they all talked about it, but when you come down to the very moment of choosing to believe that, okay, this guy is going to keep me alive. a very different mindset. When you are at that choice, even if you have talked about it, you are at the choice of I'm opening up the door and this probably kills me. Like this is probably game over. This
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:done. I'm
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:But this is his choice. His choice is leave and possibly live or stay and die.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah. And I think he'd rather stay and die with the person that he loves. As stupid as I get that, that's stupid. But I also think that that's human
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:It's not human. It's not well written. It is stupid. It is terrible that he would decide to stay. He already, again, he decided to trust. He wasn't like forced into the situation where maybe he would trust. He decided to trust it was his choice, and everything that we know about Mark and his personality would be to lead.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I don't think so. I really don't think so.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I absolutely know. so. that's how I, how far I would go. I know For a fact that that Mark would leave.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:For anybody watching, I want to know what you think, if you've seen severance.'cause I honestly don't think that he would leave.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:really thought that was very well written and very for the character, very connected to the character.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:It was not like, like I said, I, I totally would understand a moment to say goodbye alone. I totally would understand that. I understand him trying to send a message that he will fight from the outside or come back for inner hell. But running down the hallway to wear nothingness.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:What I was wondering is if they're running down the hallway to a first season where they figure out how to keep their Audi, their alive on the outside, are they running towards that same place so they can take control of it and control whether the Nies or the Audis get switched? I don't know if that's the case, but I think that's a possibility.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:So that wouldn't be the only place for it to be controlled for
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, but
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:minds, that's a plan that makes some kind of sense. There's some kind of logic to that.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I literally hate Mark now. Like I get that you're saying that makes some logic, but that would be the only place that they would be running to, to make any kind of sense.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Which is what I hope that they do. That's where I figured they were running to.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I don't think that that's where they're running to.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Where do you think they're running to?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Nowhere.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Nowhere. They're just running.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:They're just running. It is literally just, let's put a cliffhanger here so people watch season three. That is completely out of character for both characters and uh, yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Well, dang, that's too bad, man. We are very, very different opinions on this one.'cause I genuinely loved that episode. I loved it.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I had love for that episode until that point
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Until that point,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:where I was like, wow, mark, you suck.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:You are so unbelievably selfish. That's what you did. After all of that after deciding to trust, after all. of the things that everybody went through for you and you deciding to believe them and deciding to trust them, just said, Nope, I'm gonna take five minutes within inner heli.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, and I believe
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:No, I absolutely do not. Such terrible. It's so stupid.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:now you have the rest of the episode. You have the. Idea that they're figuring out multiple personalities, which I didn't think they'd be able to pull off the numbers, but that's a cool idea. I liked that idea.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I called that from episode one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:oh, you did?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That's what they were doing. I, I, didn't,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I didn't, call that they, it was specifically on the wife, but I was like, I wonder if the numbers are, how people are being severed. In software wise, that was my very first prediction.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Cool. That's cool. I didn't think that, I thought that was a cool idea. Um, I wonder if they're trying to, I'm wondering if they're trying to recreate gear. It seems like the Cold Harbor version of that is just very open to being whatever they want it to be so they can rewrite gear onto that personality, which is really cool. That's a cool idea. I like that aspect. Um. you like the episode? Where? Where what? The white-haired lady, the, the older lady goes back home. Did you like that episode?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:It was okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I thought it was slow, but I liked the aspect of being in a cult. I thought they did that very, very well. But it was just kind of a slow episode.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I just, I think it's a very clever episode. On its own.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I'm just struggling to follow her motivations as a character overall.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Like why did you break out of the A cult? Why was it just'cause they didn't go with what you wanted and you threw a tantrum? Like what? What's going
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:That's the way it seems because they offered her what she wanted and then she said no. So it seems like she's throwing a tantrum. That's what it seems like.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:And hopefully it's more than just that I. Uh,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Also. Who is she Entirely? Because we were first told that the doctor lady that was trying to bring the two marks together invented it, but now apparently she invented it. So
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:yeah, and she's
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:not really sure.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:a lot of this stuff.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I'm not really sure what her character is. What, like what her motivations would be. It really seems like right now she's throwing a tantrum. Each of her individual episodes are great.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yes,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Right. but when you look at it, her character as a whole, it starts to not make a lot of sense. Isn't great. But yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:could be filled out later,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:hopefully.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I hope so. like that they're delving deeper into this idea, um, of severance episode six, right before the episode with the wife. I was like, it'd be really cool if they had multiple layers of floors where you were one personality on one floor and one personality on a different floor. And then they basically did that with the wife, and I was like, yes, let's go. I, I really, I love the episode where you're introduced to what she's going through she's trying to escape. And then she ends up the alternate version of herself and just heading back down. Very cool. The idea of absolute hell. I like the. I liked how they dealt with the sheep people. And you have this person that's taking care of the sheep every single day, like that's their whole entire existence is taking care of this sheep. They don't know anything else, and then you have them kill their whole entire existence. does a person deal with that psychologically? I love that aspect of it.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Me too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:job of deep delving deeper into the question of what you can do with severance and what that actually means.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah, I agree.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:from this season. I just, I, I've talked about my problems with season one and I didn't have the problem that you obviously had with the ending. for me, besides season, uh, besides the episode with the white-haired lady being a little slow, I thought season two was great. great,
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Agreed.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:great. Yeah. Fantastic man. Fantastic. What would you, I uh, I know the last seconds kind of ruined it for you. What do you rate season two?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Eight outta 10.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay. Still really high.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah, season two is really great. The show is still really great. Uh, I'm still very interested in what happens in season three.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay. I.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I, I. just personally feel that like the ending with Mark running away with Heli Bet portrays his character, betrays what he, this whole season has been kind of about for him personally and like again, what are they running to? There's a lot of parts in season two where I go, okay, this is ridiculous. So take that episode. Was it the last episode or second to last episode where Mark is with white-haired chick?
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Why didn't you just ask him what Cold Harbor was? Why didn't you just ask her? Why didn't you just ask her what's going on inside? Why didn't you just ask her what the bigger picture is? Why didn't you ask her what her motivations are? And instead he just sits there silently and they stare at each other intensely and it's like, Hey, no, she is objectively a bad person to trust. She needs to spill the beans to gain trust. Plain and simple, but they don't.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:the beans.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Do that. They don't Give us any kind of dialogue or thing. Not even him asking the question is really ridiculous. Okay, what's Cold Harbor? Why is my wife so important to it? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. What's the bigger picture here? Why should I trust you? what's, going now? None of it, which is
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:they
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:stupid. It is stupid.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:what is this place that they're even going to, because they don't really get the answer for that. Why is there a, uh, a severed floor kind of a aspect to this place? questions asked about any of that.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah, and like that's fine. They wanna preserve some of their mystery, whatever. That's why the writers decided to do That I can live with it. Mark. Literally any Mark went from a character I was rooting for and in the end I was like, please choose to save the wife. Please do it. You know, fight back in that way. Right? Choose the bigger picture. Choose to trust, right? We as an audience know the answer, so let's please do it. You can do it, I believe in you. And then him choosing to run. Literally makes me hate him now.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That is too bad
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I was literally like, I hate you, mark. I literally hate you now.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:him. Wow. My only issue with the last episode is where. He first runs into his wife after he saved her and his wife's personality like, takes over again. And then they sit there and I get that they haven't seen each other for a long time. It's a very emotional moment, but the entire time I was like, you know, you're, you're doing the stupid TV thing, or you know, something's bad is happening and you don't move.'cause you need to get outta there because you know people are coming after you Dumb asses leave. I, I, it's just a little pet peeve. I don't like that. But other than
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I was totally fine with it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Didn't.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:100% was fine with it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Oh, it felt too long. I was like, come on, let's go. You need to go.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:If they don't need to go,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, they do.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:why?
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:cause people are coming after him.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:To do what?
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Hold them prisoner, keep'em there.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:How they kept her there. on the entire premise that it's been years and Mark has moved on. She now knows that they lied to her.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:But if they want to keep her, keep them there. They probably can.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:They kind of sort of can, but she's not going to be compliant anymore, which ruins their experiment. Right? Like I get that they're coming after'em, and I get that like, Yeah. Get away from it. I agree with you. I'm not saying that they should just nonchalantly walk out the door, at this point because there's nothing that could happen to them. Obviously, they could push'em into one of the severed room and she would be a different person. Right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:that. like, if they left that floor, they're no longer gonna be them, and then they can tell lies to the next version of themselves to move them somewhere else.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:There's things that could be done, but it's not like life threatening. There's a bomb that's gonna go off any moment,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:there's
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:we just like.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Totally. If somebody could have a gun there, they could have a knife there. Like there's a lot of different options for people that are coming after you and are desperate for this Cold Harbor thing to work out. Like they would do anything for this Coldwell Harbor thing to work out. They will stab you. They don't even need you anymore. Your pro, your project is done. Cold Harbor is done. They don't need you. They would stab you
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Something they do.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Why do they need Mark anymore?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Maybe not, but They definitely need her,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:They need her, but they don't need Mark.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:if they necessarily need her anymore
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Then why didn't they just kill her the second that it got to a hundred percent?
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That's true. Does
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:They clearly needed her They were clearly,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:can they work it on other people? I don't know.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:well, it's, it's definitely solely her. The file is solely her. They established that, right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:true.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:think she is a proof of concept to bring back care. That's my big prediction is that it's proof of son to resurrect care
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:why was Mark required? Was it because of, is his wife, was it?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:because he has a personal connection to her.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:okay.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Right. They established that too when he was looking at the numbers. The way they explained it is like he was looking at her memories and emotions. He was able to recognize it because he knew her So well. Because they were, married.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:were the other people that were working, the other team members doing the same files?'cause that shouldn't
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yes, because that was Mark's 25th file. Mark's 25th file, not their 25th file,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:So
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Mark's 25th file. I think they're doing basic severing.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay, and he's
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah. I think I.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:more specific.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:He, they're just there recognizing basic emotions and severing from one side to the other. Right? So they did like the goat lady, they did each other, they did heli, they did, you know, and he was just ground zero for doing the big one with this one person of doing 25 different versions, 26, counting her original self. So,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:why do you think that they had to go all the way to 25?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Probably because there's 25? or preacher things from Keir,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That would make sense.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:there's 25 lessons versus whatever. Right. Don't They establish that early in season two,
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:They
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:there's 25 of them.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:part of the lore, which would make
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That would make sense.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah. So I think they're trying to revive Keir. And so they need the 25 elements of cure or words of preaching for cure, whatever it is.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:And where do you think they're gonna do anything with heli with that? Because her father talks about he doesn't love his daughter and he always sees Kiir in the any version of Heli, but not the Audi. And I was curious what they're going to do with that aspect.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I'm super curious too. It's gonna be super interesting. I'm super invested into season three.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:My point solely with the ending of season two is I don't think it's character accurate for one. That one five minute part does not ruin everything
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:it changes my perspective in somebody who rooted for any mark to somebody who is now literally my PERS perspective right now. Kill any mark. I don't care. Stop doing the recombining
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Murder him.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Murder him. I don't care. He is a two-faced little, stupid little and I don't, I don't care for that kind of. Lack of integrity.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:It just bugged you.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:What did you think about the Dylan stuff with his wife and his wife coming clean and all of that?
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:Kind of interesting. Kind of weird, uh, the whole part where the Audi says like, I'm glad that you exist because maybe that part of me, I. I would've believed that? until after the cheating thing. And with the cheating thing being so fresh, he would 100% be like, yeah, die.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, that's what I thought too. That's what I thought too. I was surprised that they had the wife tell him what I thought they were going to do, which would've been, in my opinion interesting. Is had any Dylan actually commit suicide? That's really where I thought they were going.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I thought they were going there too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:and then the wife has to deal with losing two people. And what does that do for your psyche? Because you're, it's your, it's, it's not your fault, but you contributed to the pain.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:You were the cause of the pain and you 100% had the thoughts. I wish your, your Audi was your any.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Yeah, and you have to deal with that and then have her kind of take places of Dylan as the character that we're following. That would've been very
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:She has to become severed because there's no other way to pay the bills.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:That would've been very cool. That would've been very cool. They didn't go that way. kind of liked, I, I liked the letter, but I agreed that it was kind of too quick. It all felt too quick. His whole storyline felt too quick.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:I still liked it all. It was still super interesting. I'm not mad at what they did at all.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:Me either.
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:So
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:a little too quick. I. Anyway, that was our episode guys. If you have watched severance, I would be very interested in what you think. Was any Mark a complete piece of crap? Was he, did he make a logical, did he make a correct connect answer to
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:accurate.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:character, accurate decision? By going back and running down the hall. Should he have left? What do you think? I'm interested in what you think. Appreciate you
josh-dietrich_3_03-26-2025_135917:have left. Everybody will agree. He should have left.
konlin-gappmayer_3_03-26-2025_175911:I think he absolutely made a character accurate decision and I think the writing is brilliant. Guys. Let us know what you think. We appreciate you watching. Like subscribe, all that YouTube stuff. See ya. Bye bye.
