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Revenant - Week 25: Episode 3
Revenant - Week 25: Episode 3
I’m glad my mom died, This is Us season 3, Spectacular Now, Pantheon seasons 2, O’Dessa, Revenant
00:00 - I’m glad my mom died
10:23 - This is US
30:41 - Spectacular Now
46:21 - Pantheon
52:15 - O’Dessa
1:05:02 - The Revenant
All right. Hey guys. It is onscreen offscreen. We're back with another episode. Josh, take it off with your first book.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Uh, so this book is the Jeanette McCurdy. I'm glad my mom died book. Um, I turned this on'cause it was relatively short. I haven't been in a big book mood this week, so that's why there's no primal Hunter, uh, book five for us to talk about, but I did. Find four hours throughout the week to, to listen to this book. Um, this whole book made me wanna just like hug and protect Jeanette McCurdy, honestly. Um, you just wanna, like, it just made me feel like she needs to be protected, not exploited like she had been. Um. That was just like my takeaway from it though, is that like she was this kid who was like exploited, um, manipulated, controlled, um, and heavily leads into, you know, what the show Quiet on Set was all about. Um, so shout out to that show'cause it was so well made as well. Um. Not sure if you ended up watching it. I know I recommended it to you, but,
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:It's still on my list. I haven't watched it yet. I do want to,
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:uh, so this is a, this is a reminder. I thought you had read this book.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:I haven't read it. No.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Oh, okay.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:I've wanted to read this for a while.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:gotcha. Um, yeah, so like. Throughout the book, she talked about how passionate she felt for writing, but how she kind of like suppressed that because her mom kind of manipulated her into acting and made her feel like writing was lesser than. But the writing in this book is fantastic and I really hope she finds that passion and continues to write. I don't know what it would be about,'cause this one's kind of like a bio. This was my experience kind of thing. So her to switch gears and talk about something else would be quite different. But, uh, like her writing is fantastic. Like she is the reader too in this book. So you, she, you get her tone and you know all of those non-word things about communication as she's reading. So you get her full message the way it was meant to be. Um. So I hope she keeps writing and I hope she gets published. Um, the only problem I have with this book is I don't agree with the name'cause it's rather misleading.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:Okay.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:it's called, I'm Glad My Mom Died. And what the book is actually about is how it's. Healthy and good for her that her mom died, even though she still loves and misses her mom for the good things that
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:Okay.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:are now.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:That doesn't really match up very well.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah, and like I get it. The name is catchy, it's grabby, it's shocking and that's probably why it was named that. But the book literally ends with like. That message of I, I love my mom, regardless of her flaws. I'm sad she died, but acknowledging that like, Hey, mentally this is really healthy for me and it's probably good for me that she died, but she's not glad her mom died. So. I can see where they came up with it. It's just like, I found it rather not accurate. Um, but it's, it's good. It was enjoyable. It was very interesting to see her perspective on things, right? Like I was huge into iCarly growing up and to see, you know, the other side of things is always quite shocking. Um, I never got into Sam and Kat, but like her perspective on that was like she was only doing the show because she was promised a chance to direct and she hated the show the entire time. But basically Ariana Grande said if she directs, I'm leaving the show. So she was just stuck doing this role and this thing and hating this character that she was now known as. She talks about how like people approached her and called her Sam and how it, like, she felt like she was not seen by anybody really because her mom and family were just using her and everybody outside was calling her Sam, not Jeanette and all that kind of things. Um, and it's like, wow. To see the underside of that is just astounding. Like. If it wasn't for Miranda Cross Grove, um, who plays Carly and iCarly, like Jeanette's life could have gone incredibly differently because according to the book, she had been nothing but supportive and a loving friend. But other than that, she had like. Nobody and nothing who was just supportive and kind.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:I'm glad had each other seems like, uh. Carly was a decent human being
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:a decent person.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah. And she actually talks about how that, in the book, in the book is, she's like, it's crazy that like. Miranda Cross Grove came from such a different background'cause her family was like rich and wealthy and all this kinds of stuff. Meanwhile, Jeanette McCurdy came from an LDS middle class background and her mom was dying of cancer ever since she was little and like very different kind of outlook in life and things. And yet. Miranda Cross Grove was just like this kind person who just like was a good friend from the beginning. And it, it's, it's really great. So it's not like this down book the entire time. It's not like this big huge like downer the whole time. Um, there's some good positive outlooks on it. Um, for me the takeaway is like you never really know what somebody's going through, right? So. We look at all these actors and we think, oh man, they've got the life, they've got the money, they've got it all set, right? They've got these characters and you know, surely everybody must love them because we love and appreciate them for what they, they do for us, the way they entertain us in the story. Meanwhile, they can be going through stuff like this and stuff like what's on quiet on set, and all that kind of stuff. Um. Pretty.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:really lonely
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:and, and pain
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:that is, it's too bad shit to go through that. It really is.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:it's genuinely worth a read. It's like I said, the writing in it is so good. Um. Me as an ex-Mormon person can definitely relate to that aspect of her life. I really love how she was so respectful to the religion while also saying she didn't wanna be a part of it going forward. Um, kind of my same outlook. So she's like, I'm not gonna talk down to the religion. It's not, not my part, but like, you know, the church like used to be this safe space for her and she really respects it for what it was for her. All that good stuff.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:Every time I've seen a interview with her, she is highly, she's just an impressive person and she seems like somebody who's really kind and just wants to help. Um, I'm a big fan of Jordan Peterson, not to get like political, but I like his view on therapy in the world and I really love his books. But he has a self-authoring program where you kind of go through self therapy. Is sort of what the program's supposed to do. And she said she did this and it changed her life. So she just started buying the program for other people in their lives. a cool present to give people, just like this is a not not political or anything, this is just somebody who has spent their life in therapy and created a tool for you to be able to use tools. When you don't have the money to go to therapy, here's an option. I'm gonna gift it to you, gift it to you, try to help you out, try to. Help you see a little bit clearer, think a little bit clearer, be a little bit kinder to yourself. Make future goals, see that you can actually accomplish these things. she's bringing up all that kind of stuff in these interviews.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:a good person.
josh-dietrich_5_04-02-2025_161634:Yeah. She, she genuinely is, she says it in the book that like, her sole purpose is to, like, when, when her mom was alive, her whole life was based around making her mom happy. And that's why her mom was so effective at, at manipulating her and controlling her and that kind of stuff. And now she's dedicating her life to like. Helping out others and doing all of these things, and because of the way her mom like forced her to take all these classes and do all of these things, she has all these talents and skills and abilities and because of iCarly and other shows, she has all this financing and backing that she's able to do it and it's, it's really, really impressive.
konlin-gappmayer_5_04-02-2025_201633:That's very cool. cool. Um, with that, my first topic, this episode is, this is US season three. I finally finished it. I think it's a little bit of a drop from the first two seasons, but actually just a small drop. Um. I liked this season and I like aspects of it a lot. The relationship with Kevin and his newer girlfriends in this season, I think is great where they go to a foreign country together and they both have each other's back in the very end of the season. The girlfriend says, I don't want kids. I'm never gonna want kids. And Kevin decides he's gonna sacrifice that for her, but she can't let him. Sacrifice what she knows he really wants. She looks out for him even though it's gonna be painful for her. liked that aspect of the show a lot. I like the aspect of Kate deciding to take her risks so that she can have her own kids. There's other options she could adopt, she could foster, she could do these different things, but she wants her own kid. She's willing to take the chance to go there and get it done. I don't even even agree with the choice. I think with the statistics of her likely dying is probably not the best choice, but I like the fact that she thinks about it and she to her guns and sticks.
konlin-gappmayer_6_04-02-2025_202859:Anyway, I was saying I think it's cool that Kate fights for what she believes in and fights for this kid, and the kid fights in return, and I like that aspect of the show. Um, my major ne negative of the show is both a negative and a positive. I like what they do with the brother character, with Kevin trying to connect with his uncle, and the uncle just having this terrible, terrible life. But Kevin caring about it anyway. And it shows more about who Kevin is and it develops that character. I didn't like the, the answer for why the uncle was not in Jack's life. He messed up, he messed up bad when he did the grenade and the kid died. I thought that was obviously tragic. It's a terrible thing. I was expecting that to result in the mother and father betraying Jack's unit to the Vietnam soldiers and him losing his unit and the unit dying to something a little bit more personally wrong, like actually losing another brother, losing somebody who you go out and you march with every single day and you set up fences with every single day and you know very well, and it's directly because of this mistake with the grenade. When that didn't happen to me, Jack should have forgiven him. Maybe not included him in his life as much, but to the point of saying my brother died, seemed over extreme and not matching the character. But it led to an interesting aspect with the family, reconnecting with the uncle and, um, overall still good. I am, I started season four. I'm still interested in the ow. Still wanna watch it. Is this something that you would go back to or are you just probably never gonna pick it up again? Okay. That's what I thought was going to happen. What else was there, because I agree with that aspect. What? What else did you find? Yeah, it's a great moment. Even his own grandma's treating him differently. That's true. They do minimize his character in some ways there. They do. Me too. The foster kid, I. Did you like, did you like the Philadelphia running for commissioner at at all? Because I actually, I liked that aspect. I didn't like the fighting with Beth aspect and I didn't understand his motivation completely.'cause he is somebody who went from a Wall Street type job probably making I I, I looked it up and likely he was making high half a million plus. If you are really that concerned about poor people and that's really something that matters to you, you have the skills to go work at a place like this, donate half of what you make. Go fix up the road yourself. You're making enough money that you could like No, there's like, she feels picked on because she's given up all of her dreams. For his dreams and she has to do that again because he's asking her, uh, not really. They kind of pull that out more weirdly with Kevin's girlfriend.'cause they do pull that out with Kevin's girlfriend. It is a lot of Randall Kate. I. I agree with Randall, um, not being done very well. I think it's a little bit better when he is trying to take care of the people of Philly and moving to Philly, that relationship dynamic, I like Kate. Uh, and Randall's going back to just being racism is the major problem. I don't think his handled as well, Kate, dealing with her weight. I actually don't like in season one very much, and I think they handle it a little bit better in season three. Um, in season two, they do handle it better. Yeah. Yep. They do? Yeah. I didn't think she was just a fat girl in season three. Again, I didn't get that aspect. I thought it was done better than that, but it's not, it's not season two done well, but it felt like somebody who is trying to still improve but reverts and then tries to improve and then reverts like people do, and it felt more natural with Kate or Randall. It felt like this is the easy thing to write. And it felt like lazy writing instead of, um, natural human instinct, if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely. No, that's true. Okay. Yeah. That's a good point. Your brother's trying to reach out and connect with you. Take it. You can't understand. Yeah, Kevin's definitely the best person in season three for sure. For sure. Yep. Kevin grows a ton. I. Hmm. Your reaction was stronger than mine. I didn't like what they, the explanation with the brother, but I didn't feel like Jack's character was completely ruined or anything like that. Um, it's a negative mark. I. Because what? Your brother is still alive and you would be the person that give him, yeah. Yeah. I. I can understand where you're coming from. I, I wanted a little bit more intense reason for the cutoff with the brother, with the uncle, because I think that would've made more sense. What I was thinking they were going to do was have Jack be the only one that survived. And then when he talks to his brother about it, have the brother just be defensive. Not even be, but he comes off as a complete asshole because he's just being defensive, um, because he feels bad about what he did. But he doesn't want to actually take the blame. He doesn't want to take the responsibility and he says something incredibly stupid and that, that ends the relationship for Jack. That is what I thought they were doing, and if they would've gone more that route. I understand that that still isn't completely fit with Jack's character, but I would've been 100% fine with that because I, I would, I would've been fine with it. Um, but they didn't go that route. So it doesn't feel satisfying for the character that we know Jack to be. Randall did have quite a bit of the, I'm black and I'm adopted. I liked the running for office stuff. If they would've had,'cause they were hinting very much that Beth and Randall may have gotten divorced. That's what they were trying to like hint at with the future versions of them. And if it would've actually done that, I would've been done with the show completely because I love their relationship and I would've hated that. Not not liked it, I would've despised it, but they didn't have them break up. They're having things work out. She decided to move to Philadelphia, make her own dance studio. I like that their relationship is still forming together and it gives some kind of redemption for Randall. I think Beth makes Randall more of an interesting character, and Beth is one of my favorite parts of the entire show. Kate, I liked well enough. I do hope she, I hope as she has the kid that she deals with, some of this stuff actually deals with it and is able to move on instead of just kind of reverting back to the same thing over and over again. We'll see if that happens. I don't know, but I do hope she's able to actually deal with some problems. There's enough good for me to keep going, even though I do realize there are some of these negatives that are, are negatives of season three for sure. But that's me. Um, let's go to your second topic. Mm-hmm. Okay. Okay. Yeah, this is stacked. What was so boring about it? Okay. Okay. Shalan Woodley, Brie Larson. Okay. That's it. He's just so does the first half, is it just nothing happens and that's why it's so boring or, and it just drags and it's just slow or. That's pretty dope. That's pretty solid. It's just trash. It doesn't sound very good, man. It doesn't sound like something worth watching. That's a good audience. Co. Why would you like this movie? Do you think it She does a good job in it. Uh, what is her name? Yeah. Yeah. I think Lawrence is a better actress personally, but she is. She's good. She does a good job. Yeah. I don't like that movie at all, but she does a good job in it is what it is. It just didn't come together. Yeah, I'm done. And that's about it. But you're done. Yeah. You move on. It's not for you. Yep. It honestly doesn't sound like that good of a movie to me, but eh, I don't, I don't get it either. I don't get it either. Some people just like the angst, I guess. Just negative, just bad writing and negative. Too bad. So what would you rate this show? Oh, it does get a three. Okay. I was expecting even lower than that actually. Hmm. Nah, I'm good. They just didn't deliver, but they're just given bad writing. Alright, that'll lead to my next show, which is the opposite. It has great writing. Um, Pantheon, I talked about season one a long time ago, like at the beginning of this podcast, and I thought season one was all the show had. You couldn't watch season two unless you were in Australia or Singapore for years, and I don't know why they did that, but you literally couldn't watch a show. Season Two completes the show and turns it from something. That was pretty good. Interesting ideas. Something that is great and if you're into sci-fi, you should watch. Um, the show starts with a girl who's getting bullied and she's getting cyber bullied. It's very modern that way. Her name's Maddie and someone steps in and stops the cyber bullying. You don't know who, but they kind of bully the cyber bullies and get them to stop and it's just enough to like say, knock it off. She starts talking to them and they're talking like she talked when she talked with her dad and they have little inside jokes like her dad, but her dad is dead. Doesn't make a lot of sense. The mom catches her talking to this stranger online and the stranger says something that only her father would've known. You find out that her dad uploaded and became a digital intelligence. He's the first one to do this, but he is not the only one that's done it. Countries have their own digital intelligence. Um, UIs is what they're called that have started to integrate. These integrations come with problems because these UIs are extremely, extremely powerful. The main villain of the show has this dream of a future where there is no death, where you can progress forever, and where humans who he believes are ruining the planet won't be there to ruin the planet anymore. People will just keep growing and it will become a digital life instead of a a physical life. So eventually they turn off the internet. The UIs are causing so many problems and they don't want them connecting to the internet and being able to cause all these problems turning off. The internet obviously affects all of society, and society is freaking out because they want their internet back. They want all these services back, but the UIs would literally take everything over. So you have this conflict that arrives inside of the riding that's extremely well done with the main villain trying to become kind of the head of the UIs and everybody else trying to stop them. There's twists and turns along the road. Very satisfying. That's kind of where your first season goes. The second season, expounds upon that and introduces more really interesting ideas in this world of UIs, they're like superhero heroes. They're, they think faster. They move faster. They're even depicted as superheroes and it kind of. Lets you grasp how much more their potential is and why it makes the idea of becoming the UI compelling. They do a good job of making it, making you understand why someone would end their physical life and go into this universe, into this AI internet based life. It makes the whole story compelling. It makes the villain's purpose understandable. It also makes the heroes more relatable. Um, Maddie eventually gets to the point where she's very against the UIs because she's lost so much. Her dad being the first one has to sacrifice a lot to bring, to pass a future that's better than what is currently, what is currently headed towards like any good hero story does. She's kind of caught in the middle of all of this and has to suffer pain after pain, after pain, and it builds up the character in a very interesting way. I like good endings. I think endings are extremely hard to pull off, and anytime you pull off a good ending, I give you a lot of credit. This show has a fantastic ending. Two seasons was perfect and you should all, you, you should watch it. It's just good. You should just watch it. Yeah, it's a, it's an interesting show. It's well done. And I don't, I don't even agree with all of the philosophies that are put in place, which is something else I like about the show I give a lot of credit for because nothing feels like it's getting shoved down my throat. Like the only thing that you kind of have to just believe because the authors believe is that the planet is going to die and kind of a, a. Green initiative aspect there is that. Other than that, they represent different viewpoints. They represent different thought patterns. There's even two ui. One of them is the UI for Israel and one of the ui UI for Palestine. And this is before, this would've been before the major conflict that's going on. Um, but they handle it in an extremely respectful way where everybody's just trying to come together and there's two different points of view and it doesn't feel like there's a political point getting shoved down your throat. It feels like the writers were smart enough to actually write something with some nuance, which I appreciated. It's just, it's a good show. It's a good show. With that, let's go to your last topic before I share a topic. I have never heard of this. I don't know what this is. Yes, I do. Have you, have you ever seen Hades, the musical Hades? Hades Town musical? Yeah, sorry. Hades Town. Oh, wow. Okay. I completely disagree with you on that. I love that musical. Anyway, go ahead with, oh, I think you're, I think you're so wrong. I love Hades Town. I think it's brilliant. Anyway. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Me in particular or anybody? Okay. Yeah, that would be awesome. That would be awesome. It's cool. Maybe I'll give it a shot. I, uh, like some rock, uh, rock musicals, like, Jesus Christ Superstar is really good. I actually really like it a lot. Um, I'm trying to think other ones that I really like. I, uh, it's all right. It's all right. I know. P it is a big cop classic. People love that movie. I, it's all right. I. That's true. That's true. Come on. Yeah, it is. It is. And that's okay. I. But for some people it's awesome. For some people it just works. That's cool. That's cool. Um, yeah, something I could see me play maybe in the background, give a watch, but overall it's enjoyable. I. Nice. That's awesome. I'm glad you had a good time with it, man. OD Dessa. I'll try it out. Um, what would you rate this, okay. Okay. Okay. But you had a good time with it for your one watch. Yeah, it's poor art. I agree. All right, with that, let's go to our last topic, Revenant. Um, I've wanted to watch this for a really, really long time. I've heard about the way that they shot things. I mean, they, they actually embraced the cold. Um, they wanted it to feel really natural, so they didn't use lighting effects. They actually just used the sun and they used fire and they went out in the cold and they had to move equipment through these piles of snow that are feet thick, and they had to figure out how to do that. And the result. Is a absolutely beautiful movie. I think this movie is gorgeous. I also think this movie is too long. There is a lot of, like, Lord of the Rings. They complain about those scenes where they're walking and you see New Zealand. Um, this movie actually does that too much. I think. I think there's a little bit too much of the just nature scenes. Along with that, you have these moments where our main character is he, he's going through a lot of crap, like he's going through Leonardo's character's, going through a lot of stuff, and he's reflecting on his life, and sometimes the reflections I don't think are as smooth. So you get kind of conf kind of lost in what's going on inside of the movie, and it makes the movie feel a little bit too long and too drawn out. Those are a couple of my little negatives. I think the acting in this movie all around is fantastic. Like I think it's really, really good. Um, Leonardo's great the, what is his name? The Bridger guy. The guy who plays Bridger very good, like did a really, really good job. Dom Hall Gleason, I think is wildly underrated as an actor and is fantastic in this movie. Like really good. Tom Hardy does a great job in this movie. Everyone is excellent. They shot everything with real lighting. So for me, it really gripped me like I was, I was in this movie during the scenes where. Where you weren't cutting back to his past life events when you were with him and you were walking with him and you were part of the things with him and you were watching him survive. I was gripped, I was in the movie. If they would've cut out some of those flashback scenes or made it a little bit smoother, I think I could have been gripped throughout the entire movie. And instead of me just saying, this is a very good movie with great cinematography, really great action pieces, really gripping moments, I would say, this is phenomenal. Instead I say, this is very good. That's kind of what I thought. What did you think? Solid eight? Like, I, I still really liked it. Uh, maybe, maybe just below an eight because some of those flashback scenes did make it. I feel kinda long and I don't know if I'd rewatch it because of that, but the good stuff in this movie is very good. Okay. Oh, I thought it was gorgeous. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think this is his best one either. Yes, I think it is. Are you serious? Wow. Wow, wow. He was really good. Absolutely excellent. So am I. Yeah. Oh, I did not fill out. I thought he did a great job in this movie. Is it his best performance? No. I think there are other performances that deserve the Oscar more, but am I cool with him getting an Oscar for this? Absolutely. He did a very good job. He ate the raw fish, he ate the bison liver. He crawled through the snow. He, he literally starved himself. So he would look skinnier throughout the movie. Like he grew out the hair. He did all the crap. Yeah. I think he deserves the Oscar. I'm good with him getting the Oscar for this. I thought he did. Excellent. What are you talking about? What did he do for the DaVinci Code? Hmm. Yeah, I know. But he ate the fish on screen. That's crazy. He caught the fish and he ate the fish on screen. He ate the beef liver on screen, uncooked beef, liver on screen. He froze on screen like he did all of this crap on screen. I know. But then you have a great performance along with doing all this crazy crap. I disagree. I. I, I saw your notes on that and I wanted to talk to you about that.'cause I don't understand that at all. I thought this was a very believable movie. Yeah. The character he's based off of, literally had that happen to him. That's based on a real event. Yes. It's at least a ton. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Hmm. Starts limping. Was his leg flopping around that much? Okay. I remember him crawling like that, but I didn't remember his leg being that floppy. Because you're right, it that, that would, yeah. Almost never know. Sometimes get surgery, the leg. Just put it over the top for you. Yeah. Yeah. The flashbacks were rough. Yeah, they're both so good. They're so good. Yeah. Okay. Okay. This movie obviously hit for me more than it hit for you.'cause I, I did. I liked it a lot. It could have been better, could have been truly great, but it hit for me. I. I think it probably still would've been nominated, but I don't know if it would've won. I do think it probably would've been nominated that year. They had Brian Cranston in Turbo. They had Matt Damon in The Martian. I think this is better than Matt Damon's Martian, um, Michael Fast Brier as Steve Jobs. Yeah, I think this is better than that. Um, ma Medical Fast Brier as Steve Jobs, I actually think is probably better than this one, to be honest. And then Eddie Redden, Maine and the Danish Girl, which I've never seen. It kind of looks like a dumb movie to me, but Eddie Redman's a really good actor, so possible. But among that, yeah, I still think it would've been nominated as long as it wasn't completely, terribly acted. I think it would've been nominated. Fair. He saved the movie. It wasn't just him. I think Fast Bender probably did deserve it over over Leonardo that year. He doesn't, he's really good in that movie. He's really good in that movie. But what, what movie would you give Leonardo his Oscar for? Catch Me If You Can's a good one. Shutter Island is a good one. I agree completely. Actually, he's kidding. I's a good one. That's a good one. He's creating that. Yeah. I would, I, this will, it'll be a while before I rewatch this again, but this is one that I would rewatch. Yeah. Okay. But that's about it. Okay. I feel like this one a little bit more than you did. That's all right. Different things. I will do that.'cause I, I just missed that to be completely honest. I just did, um. Last thing I wanted to say before we end this is just how, how underrated I think the Dom Hall Gleason guy is. He plays the older brother in Harry Potter, which I didn't even realize it was him. Like I didn't realize that that was the same guy. And then he is in X Macina, which is great. He does such a good job in it. There's a Black Mirror episode I talked about a couple weeks ago that he is in. He's fantastic. He does incredible job in it. And after time is my favorite romance probably ever. And he's great and does a fantastic job and he just deserves more credit than he gets. He just does. He's great 100%. He's so good. And I have to look at it again. I was going to say, when I was thinking about this episode, that he is the best actor in. In, um, Harry Potter, but there's a lot of good actors in Harry Potter. I don't know if I wanna stick behind that, but he's very good. I know there's, there's some great actors in Harry Potter, but he is that good that I would debate, saying that I would Is amazing. He's amazing. I know, I know. He's incredible. He's incredible. That's the one that makes me go, ah, also, um, the one that plays, oh, I would give him an a. He is so good. He is so good. I know. The other one that is also really, really great is, uh, the McGonigal actress. She's, she's very good. She's very good. Okay. Against an a. It is just not fair. That's, that's, that's true. He's just, he's been up there at the very top for such a long time. Just consistently puts it out. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. All right, guys, with that, that is the end of our episode. We appreciate y'all watching. If you haven't seen the remnant, it's worth watching, especially if you like history and are interested in that time in history. Watch Odessa. What are you talking about?
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:The greater plot of this is not historically accurate at all. It doesn't even say based on a true story at the beginning of this movie,
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:I know that. I know that, but they tried to make the surroundings of the time period feel authentic.
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:but they weren't.
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:Whatever, whatever. Okay. If you
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:If you wanna watch it, great, but don't call it history. That's not history.
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:think they tried to make the, tried to make the tribes more realistic. They tried to make the lives of these people realistic. Yes, I get that. The history is off. He got mauled by a bear and yes, he did survive and went through the wilderness, but there was, he didn't have a son. He forgave Fitzgerald. Like it wasn't, that wasn't accurate, but they tried to make the sort of the. Lives of those people and what it would be like to survive this terrible situation. Realistic.
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:No they didn't.
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:Yeah. Yeah, they
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:So they didn't. It would try
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:Anyway,
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:not accurate at all.
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:decide to watch Odessa, I would be interested to see what you think. Do you have a favorite rock opera? I couldn't think of very many before. I do love Jesus Christ Superstar. That was great. It's fantastic. And if you're into sci-fi, watch Pantheon because it's great. We appreciate you guys. Let us know if there's anything you want us to watch together. Um, I'm happy to watch something and tell you why Josh is wrong. Anytime we can watch anything, it'll be good.
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:Not anything. I will not watch anything, but I'm open to suggestions.
konlin-gappmayer_7_04-02-2025_214500:Sounds good. you guys. See ya. Bye.
josh-dietrich_7_04-02-2025_174502:May.