Onscreen Offscreen
Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
Onscreen Offscreen
Spider-Man LOTUS
Spider-Man LOTUS
The Electric State, Oblivion Remastered, The Woman in the Yard, Spider-Man LOTUS
00:00 - The Electric State
20:00 - Oblivion Remastered
29:18 - The Woman in the Yard
46:57 - Spider-Man LOTUS
Hey everybody. This is Onscreen offscreen show where we like to talk about our daily media, how it impacts our lives. Our first topic this week is gonna be kind of a shared topic, uh, the electric state. Uh, this came to us via a recommendation from one of our viewers recommended we watch this Ferrari Girl, whoever you are, uh, Klan's going to share his thoughts on this movie. First, it's kind of more your topics. Go ahead. What'd you think?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:So I heard this movie was terrible from a lot of people and I was not going to watch this movie if you wouldn't have recommended it to us. I wouldn't have watched it. had a good enough time with this movie, like it was enjoyable enough. I think all the acting is pretty good. and I actually think it's a really good looking movie. All the aspects of it. I felt very much like I believed what I was watching, and I heard that the. The cinematography and different things weren't that good in it either, and that's just wrong. Like it looks, it looks like a good movie. I think the robots are very convincing, like everything feels lifelike. I, there's a couple things that I don't understand in the movie and pick, and they all revolve around the main girl. So the story is the main girl, um, her brother was she, she was in a car crash and the brother. Gets taken. She thinks that the brother's dead. A robot pops up from her childhood and she finds out that it is her brother and tries to go and save him. Cool. Kind of basic story, not, not a big problem there. Makes some sense. She is super against technology and I don't really understand why she's sitting in class and everybody else has their VR headset basically on where you can control alternate robots and you can be really effective with your time. It splits the brain in two, so you have one side that's having a lot of fun, and the other side can actually be productive and do things for society. And everybody uses these in, in their society. Everyone. kind of like having an iPhone now. Like everybody just uses a phone when you're a teenage girl. You're probably not gonna not have a phone and just be against having a phone. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I wish they would've given some reason why she was so against technology when they showed the car crash where her family dies and the, the, her father, I believe was the only one that's left. I thought it was'cause they were going to be distracted by some technology or some, there's going to be some kind of air, something to make her feel so rebellious against this whole society. She now lives in. none of that. So you have to take the premise that she just doesn't like people being on tech because, and maybe it's'cause her, her stepdad or dad is so absorbed into it and he is kind of a jackass. Maybe that's it, but we don't really know and they should have given some kind of answer. If you accept that premise that she just doesn't like the tech, you can go along with the movie and the rest of the movie is actually pretty enjoyable. She, go ahead. Go ahead Josh.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:I just wanna jump in here.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:like, it's her foster parent, so, uh, she can't afford the technology. She's just around the technology. And I think she sees the negative effects more so than the people who are actually in it. Like, I find it believable enough. I mean, like, I can't, don't quote me on this, but like I'm pretty sure the car accident was with a, a self-driving semi, right?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:I am pretty sure her dad is actually driving.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Yeah. And they hit a self-driving semi,
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:It's possible. I
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:so it was like a first generation tech thing. Or early adopter thing. And anyway, I didn't have a problem with that.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:a better answer. That's a better answer. I just, did, I, I watched the movie and I was a asking that question and I didn't get that it was a self-driving semi or some kind of reason why, like you're a poor kid now. Schools all over the country will still give you a laptop, even in really, really poor districts. So if, if it was required that you wear this headset to be able to participate in school, you are going to have access to this headset. And when everybody else is using these headsets to communicate, that becomes your life.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Right, but like not everybody has the foster situation, right?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:That's
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Everybody else in this world has grown up with it. That's her age, right? It's just a regular thing for her. She's a foster kid. She grew up in an environment where she was raised by this despicable human being who in the movie literally just says you're only around for the paycheck. He's not giving her access to it. She's not growing up around it. She just sees what her dad does with it, or Foster dad does with it and is absolutely disgusted by it, which is fair. Right. Like, so her hatred of technology was not one of the things that bothered me about this movie.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Okay. I'm interested in what did bother you? Um, I'll keep going through You, you eventually meet Chris and his robot he's like a part smuggler and I actually like the relationship with Chris and the robot quite a bit. It's a good buddy cop kind of relationship, and I think they do a good job with that. I like the personalities of the robots in this movie when they get locked in the robot land and there's those. Robots that are kind of like picking people pick, picking
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Scavengers. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:I liked them. I thought that was well done. I thought it was, it had a good horrifying aspect without being so horrifying. You couldn't show this to kids. They did a good job with that. I liked the village and what they're building and they're trying to build this robot paradise that was quite good. the bad guys are, they're, they're not great, but they're not terrible. They're fine. they're okay enough. So that's, that's kind of where the movie goes to me, is just like, this is all enjoyable enough. Is this great? No. Is this as terrible as other people said it was also? No. The one last problem I do kind of wanna mention is, you have this kid whose brain is Super computer that makes everything work, which you just kind of have to buy that that premise even makes sense, but whatever. I just let it be cool. If this is the most important thing for your whole company and your whole thing, why would this kid not be buried 300 feet under the ground in a vault? Like this kid should not be able to be touched by anybody other than like the. United States military deciding to dig that kid out of the ground. I liked the last scene of the movie. I liked the storming. This company. I thought it was well done, but there is no way that that kid would just be sitting in this building. Nope, no way at all. Again, I just kinda like, it pass. It's okay. Good enough, but not great. What did you think?
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:I, I thought it was fine. Ultimately, uh. My issues with it is it's three movies with three kind of different objectives, and they did a great job of setting up all three of these objectives and gave no follow through to any of them.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Explain what you mean.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Right? So at the beginning it's all about grief and loss and doing that kind of stuff,
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:then it kind of turns into this like prejudice is bad movie. Kind of thing. And then it becomes about, uh, corporate greed and, uh, capitalism at its worst. But none of those are really like themes throughout. So you kind of like have a, a pretty solid setup to a grief movie. A pretty solid setup to a prejudice movie and a pretty solid setup to a capitalism at its worst set movie. But you don't have a follow through or even a half swing at the rest of those plots. Um, so like everything kind of falls on its face. Uh, Chris Pratt's story, he's this ex soldier who had a robot be nice to him, and so he gave up on this war and. What is his follow through from that trauma and that experience?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Apparently falling in love with the robot.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Apparently just being a buddy cop for the rest of your life because you don't have anything else going on for the rest of your time in no eternity. Like you kind of like the movie ends and he has no direction, he has no purpose. Like if you ask me, he becomes the most depressed person on planet Earth.'cause he has no more reason to do anything. Um. The scene where his buddy cop robot has an eight inch version of himself, I thought was the most enjoyable part of this movie because it was so well telegraphed ahead of time that the payoff is funny and enjoyable. Uh, but the main girl, her whole quest, save the brother, save the brother, save the brother. And then you get to the end and it's like, you can't save me because if I go. Everything fails and I need the system to live. There is no logical explanation as to why he couldn't just become a robot. Again,
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:No, just not.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:there's not he. I get that your body needs the system to live, but you clearly transferred your consciousness to a robot. And while I would pick one that could probably communicate more clearly, uh, you know.
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:don't you just do that
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:Why don't you just do that again so that it just falls on its face and isn't a good play payoff either. You have the awesome badass robot guy who's played by, I don't remember the actor's name. I. But he's hunting him throughout the movie, right? And he drops his gun like 20 times. And I'm like, does nobody pick up this laser blaster, exploder gun ever? Nobody thinks get that thing away from it and shoot him with it. No, they all just sit there. Um, there's no logical explanation as to why the corporation can make his robot work perfectly again. When he is crushed by rubble, so like they, they, they explode, it crashes down on him and they're like, we can give you your robot back. Why couldn't he get his own robot back then if it was working just fine. They didn't have to like, take it and go repair it or give them a new one. They were just like, return it back on
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:It's done came.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:What?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:you're right.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:What the freak,
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:that. That is
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:uh, they set up, they had this cool si scene where Mr. Peanut like slices one of his things
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Mm-hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:I was like, oh man, they're setting this up. It's, it's teed up. They're ready to like knock it out of the park where he's like dripping oil throughout himself and they're gonna light him on fire and he's gonna like, Nope, never comes up again. Uh, but like. The worst part about his storyline is he has this moment where he has this great line where he is like, I finally met somebody less human than robots. Right?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:you're like, great line. Totally get it. And instead of saying like, I'm going to team up with the robots now and fight the good cause, he's like, I'm just done. So, I mean, I get that this giant robot is wrecking havoc right now, but I'm just gonna, you guys can still deal with that. I'm just gonna not fight you guys anymore. Like
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:didn't have as much of a problem with that, but
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:his whole character is based on this moral compass of like consciousness and like what makes humans different, right?
konlin-gappmayer-_3_04-30-2025_172815:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_04-30-2025_132829:There's no way that his character would be like, I met somebody.
