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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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Death Of a Unicorn
Death of a Unicorn
Wild America, Quiet on Set, Dark side of Kid Influencers, Death of a Unicorn
00:00 - Wild America
10:27 - Quiet on Set
28:04 - Dark Side of Kid Influencers
45:50 - Death of a Unicorn
Hey everybody. It's onscreen offscreen. We've got a good mix up today of topics. Josh, let's go with your first topic and a movie that I freaking love.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Alright, so the movie is Wild America. Uh, this movie has a 6.4 on I-M-D-B-A 29% on Rotten Tomatoes, a 59% audience score. Uh, this has never been my all time favorite movie. Uh, I more begrudgingly watched it a few times growing up because my younger brother loved it. I remember there was like a straight up, two straight years where he was making the Mountain Dew fart joke anytime he had to fart. Uh. This movie has some plot issues. It's pacing is not perfect. Uh, overall though, it's super underrated and it's still enjoyable and you still love the brothers and you still love them coming together like they feel like real brothers.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Absolutely.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:the way they torment each other, but anytime anything actually happens, they, they bond together and stand against their parents or stand against the whoever. And the way they just, like, they're all serve their uses and have their own specific roles of intelligence too. Uh. You know, the youngest kid is the clever kid and the, the, the middle brother is the artistic, you know, guy. The other one is all the oldest is all about the perseverance and pushing through the hard things. And like, there's parts of the movies where they each have important things to say to each other to keep things going forward. Uh, and loosely based on a true story too. So like, how can you be. Too mad at that. It's just a good time and it's fun. Uh, this is one I would put in the fun for the whole family category because
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:too.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:it's got the immaturity of the fart jokes along with the sincerity of the mother being concerned and that the father dealing with his issues and. It's great. Like why, why does this movie have so much hate and is now kind of like forgotten? I don't know.'cause it's, it's great.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I have absolutely no idea why this is forgotten and like the part where they're, uh. Skinny dipping, and the brother like sees the camera. You can just see my, his, his face just starts to smile. It's so good. Um, the brothers do feel absolutely realistic. The younger brother feels like the younger brother. The older brothers feel like they're, like bowling him a little bit like older brothers do. But they also just love him and want him to succeed and want him to be tough like older brothers do. There's that dichotomy and it's really well written. acting is, is just good. Um, I like that. It's, it, it, I used to, I was obsessed with this movie when I was 12 years old, absolutely obsessed. I had my iPhone, iPhone, I think it was an iPhone at the time. um, would, I downloaded this movie and I would literally watch it to fall asleep basically every night. And I did it for months. I loved this movie as much as I loved this movie. I wasn't an animal person. This made me more an animal person because it's cool. It's based on a true story. It's based on these brothers who just decided to go on this wild adventure literally like risk dying to be able to see some of these cool animals. That's awesome. Um, it doesn't really. I don't know if it super fits with the movie, to be honest, but I like the whole spiritual Navajo thing that the movie's going for. Does it really fit with trying to make a realistic type movie? I don't know, but I enjoy it. I think it's a cool thing. I like the bear cave. The bear cave is thrilling. It, I, I loved it when I was a kid. Um, I liked, I liked that they all have a dream. I liked them. Um. Flying the plane at the end of the movie. I, I, it's just, it's just great. The movie is just great and it absolutely deserves more than a 6.4. And for any of you who are watching this who haven't seen this, which I bet is most of you, should watch this movie'cause it is so damn enjoyable.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Okay. Uh, the plane scene makes no logical sense.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:No, it
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:But it's enjoyable. It is. It's cool. It is, and it's, it's so funny'cause he, the, the, the youngest kid takes the plane out and starts to fly and the, the brother's like, I wonder what he's trying to say to dad. And the mom's like, I think he's sending a message to all of us. And it's like, that's so heartwarming. But then you think about it, you're like, what message is he sending to anybody but the dad? What are you talking about lady? And uh, like, like I said, logically it's not a perfect movie. Uh, has some problems for sure. Uh, but it overcomes it with its enjoyable. Um, the bears in the cave, you watch it in this day and age and you go, those are some fake. Looking bears. Those are maybe some of the worst fake looking bears ever, but they use enough lighting tricks to still make it feel terrifying, which is really cool and it's enjoyable to overcome and like
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:it is. And the
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:it's a good one.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:love the river scene. also
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:river's probably the best scene in the entire movie.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:it's great.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Yeah. Uh, just watch it and enjoy it. That's what I would say for this movie is don't try and analyze this one'cause you're gonna find issues. The true stuff in it is like very loosely true. So don't be sitting there thinking you're actually learning about these people.'cause you're not, it doesn't even say based on a true story at the beginning of the movie. That's how.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:that how loose. Yeah.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Uh, loose that this one is taking it. Uh, it does give you a little bit of like what these characters did after this experience, but it is pretty loose. So just watch it and enjoy it and have a good time. And no matter who you are, I guarantee there's stuff for you to enjoy in this movie'cause. Stuff keeps happening. There's no pacing problems, there's no lulls. Even when you think there's about to be a lull, you get to see jets and bombs dropping. I think that's when you most feel like there's going to be a lull and they're just like, you know what would make this exciting? Explosions?
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:If this was a
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:It is good.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:field, which is
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:yeah. Uh, I, I, I highly recommend this movie. It's just positive. There's no garbage in it. It's no bad language in it. Like I said, it's fun for the whole family.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:but it's just
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Oh, absolutely. You got the quick, you got the quirky Florida man in it.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:you not enjoy a quirky Florida man?
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Clerky Florida, man. It's just, I, I really, I love this movie. I
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:so much,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:What would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Easy eight. Easy eight. I love
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Okay. Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:What about you?
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Hard eight, like I would still give it an eight because I would easily rewatch this one, but I'm torn between watching it occasionally, rarely. It's still enjoyable. Would I watch it by myself? Yeah, pretty easily. But there's issues. Personal memories also attached to it. Like I said, my little brother made that fart joke for a solid year at least. Um, but you know, it's funny, I think my little brother made that joke more funny by stealing it. I think if I saw that today, I'd be like, okay, it didn't need to happen four times in this movie.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:because I have that connection to it, I think it's more funny now. Um, so yeah, it, it's an eight out of 10. I would rewatch it, I would rewatch it by myself fairly regularly, even though it has problems. And that's where I'm at.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Like. I've got two employees that are, uh, off right now. So it's been crazy, crazy busy, and I still was like, Josh is gonna watch Wild America. I have to watch Wild America. So I slept less than I probably should have so I can re-watch Wild America because I, love this movie.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:It's, it's a good one. It definitely deserves better than the treatment it's gotten. I don't know why it had such poor reviews. I don't know why. People have kind of forgotten it today. This kind of feels like a movie that should have more of a cult following,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Absolutely.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:a Iron Giant, like a treasure planet.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Yes,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:But it doesn't, and that's, that's sad.'cause this one is a really good one.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I agree. Alright, now let's go from that joyous wonderfulness to something way darker. Um, I've thought about how to review these two shows and kind of hard to review, to be honest, because I don't, as I review it, I don't wanna sound like I am an or like I'm standing up for this disgusting behavior in any way. gonna start with all quiet on set because you've seen that one, and then I'll go to the other one and it can be a little bit shorter, a lot of what we see on all quiet on set is absolutely disgusting. Despicable, cannot make a reason for it. is horrible. Um, also, I, I'm, I'm very. I, I fight against the narrative a lot. At least I try to, when I watch shows like this, I try to say, what kind of point are they trying to make? And do they always make that point? And I don't think that they always do with this. They ha they like to make the point that all of the, uh, shooting something on someone's face is sexual and acu shot. And I don't necessarily believe that. I don't think they make that point inside of the show. They like, there's the part where you have the black kid from all that I think is what it was called, who's got the noses on his shoulders and he is got the big nose and it's part of his character and he sneezes and he sneezes on the girl's face. They're like, this is obviously sexual. And the noses looked like dicks on his shoulder or whatever. And I stopped it and I'm like, is there any way I can look at this? And it looks like a dick. answer to that was absolutely not. No. I could not see that in any way, shape, or form. Um, and I think that they, they spent a lot of time on this particular aspect of it being sexualized that I didn't really see, and they made it up for the point. So you have that whole section that I kind of just toss away because I don't rec necessarily believe it. But then you have some aspects that are completely disgusting, like particularly the Ariana Grande potato thing was just weird as hell. And the pouring water all over herself. Very, very cringey. Some of the ALI stuff that they showed was particularly really cringey. I. That obviously looked pretty sexualized to me. Um, when I talk about the squirting on the face, like they have a Zoe 1 0 1, they have one of the girls that's from Zoe 1 0 1 as the speaker, and she's trying to open something up and it sprays on Zoe's face. I remember watching that when I was like 11 or 12 whenever this thing came out laughing at that speed at that scene. I remember that scene and not thinking it was sexualized in any way, shape, or form, and like. I knew about, uh, 11, 12, 13 years old. I knew about this kind of stuff. I knew about the kind of jokes. I don't think I, I, I mean, I was in Happy Valley, Utah and I knew about this stuff. I bet they knew about this stuff in California, working on a set. Like, I don't think they were as innocent as they were trying to portray themselves to be, but maybe they were. I don't know. I knew about the stuff. Didn't really think it was that much of a deal. Um. That doesn't mean some of it wasn't gross and over the top, like particularly the area Grande that they like to put up of juicing the potato.'cause that's messed up. Um, and they try to make the point that all of this stuff and all of these struggles that these teenagers have when they grow up is just because they were overly sexualized. At least it seems like that's the point that they're making. But no matter where these kids get major fame from, and whether they are boys or girls, most of them seem to struggle, I think that they're missing the point, that being that famous and having that many eyes on you and that many voices telling you what you should and shouldn't be doing at that young, young of an age where you can't experience yourself, you can't understand, you can't explore because you have to be perfect. Is bad for children's mental capabilities they're trying to make a point so they don't actually really explore that. When I think that should be explored, that's kind of the end of my aspect of the all quiet on set or how, uh, you wanna say that. I don't know exactly how to say that. The rest of it is pretty dang despicable. Um, you have Dan and he's hiring a woman, but saying she can't be funny, so she pays her half as much and gets another woman writer to also write, that's despicable. That's gross. That's terrible. Why would you do that? have all the pressure that they put on a Amanda binds and how much that really caused her damage. I think there was a lot of pressure there. I think that. Was terrible. And then you get to the worst part of all, which is the Drake Bell stuff, which was absolutely gross. The fact that that guy could still work after af after going to a case like that, after raping Drake for who knows how long. Absolutely disgusting. And anybody who does that on a set, on a, whoever does that to a child like just. Go to hell. Like that's, that is gross. And the fact that Drake could keep acting the way that he did and keep holding it together and keep being funny and keep working with the people that he did, says a lot about him, kudos to him. Um, it was a hard thing to watch. It's too bad that things like that happen. It is just too bad. What, what did you think about this whole thing and what did you think about what I said?
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Uh, it's been a long time since I've seen it, so I wanna preface that pretty early. Uh, I do agree that there are some things that are very obviously sexualized and there are some things that are not, um, but not to your degree. Right. I think if we're talking about like the nose thing, right? I think that that's something that can be viewed as innocent, but when you apply the similar logic, you also see a progression of it just becoming more and more sexualized, right? Because all that happened first, which is where the nose thing happened, and you go, okay, maybe Dan is just testing the waters here. And then the Zoe 1 0 1 happens and you go, okay, that's more gross. And then iCarly happens. You go, oh, that's more gross. And then the Ariana Grande, Sam and Cat happens. You go, that's way across the line. And I think that's more fair of a way to look at it is it's like, yeah, the nose one particularly, you only see it if you look to see it. It's not something you just naturally go. That's sexual. But I do think it's a fair criticism for the makers of the movie to point out that like it, we can see it here and here and here and here and here.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Yeah, it just seemed like a running gag to me. It didn't seem like a, this was an overtly sexualized aspect
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Right. But if you're taking the point of view that Dan Snyder is right, you're trying to say The point is not how sexualized the actors are. The point that they're making is about Dan Snyder, right? About how much of a predator he is,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:they're saying he is. Um, the point that they're making that like, hey, it starts with a little thing and it got more and more and more and more. They make the same thing with like the feet. It's like there's a little, and then there's more and there's more and there's more and there's more. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:And the massages, when you're a high level exec and you should be able to just go pay for a massage or even just set your. person to just give you, uh, set up a massage for you every single day, and Nickelodeon would probably pay for. That is weird. Like it's weird.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:yeah. So, so that's the point they're making. I think it's fair to bring up those. I think your criticisms are also a little fair. Um,'cause like I said, the nose one at the beginning is one that I say Yeah, you're kind of reaching for that one. Uh, the Zoe 1 0 1, I would say when you were a kid, it probably came out when you were closer to like eight. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:don't remember. I don't know.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:it was like early, early two thousands.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Was it
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Uh.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Yeah. Um, so, and even when you do know that stuff, you're not necessarily looking for it like you do as an adult. Uh, so, so that one's, I'm more on the side of the, the filmmakers for too. Um, I don't think this was about the actors at all. I felt like the entire time they were just trying to tell the story, make the point that Dan Snyder should be in jail. Um, and I think they very effectively told that, and everything that they told was to make that point because even when Dan Schneider wasn't the active villain, Dan Schneider should have been the person to step in and say, keep the kit, the guy who was messing with Drake away from Drake. Away from the show should not have been allowed on property, but Dan still allowed him in. So, uh, the point of the show I feel like was effective. Um, and it, it made me feel gross. Um, it, it made me feel like I. A little bit of guilt for liking these shows. Uh, specifically Drake and Josh and iCarly was huge for me. I never saw the Amanda be shows or all that ever. So, but like iCarly and Drake and Josh were big and seeing that stuff and thinking back of like how much I contributed to this, enabling is a little, it makes you feel a little bit guilty.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:It
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Um, I appreciate that the actors who did were in those situations have spoken up, specifically Drake, about how you shouldn't hate Drake and Josh, because actually being on set was a safe place for me and I really appreciated, um, acting with those actors and, um. All of those things. And the guy who played Carly's brother was consistently standing up for people, um, on both of those shows as well. Um, so that eases that a little bit. But there is that after you watch this show, there's that sickening feeling of like, I contributed to this by being a viewer.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:not wanna watch the shows ever again
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:It originally did. Um, but. All those things that the actors have said about it and like still watch iCarly, still watch Drake and Josh. Um, you're not enabling him. He's not making a penny from it now. So, you know, that's all good stuff. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Do you know if the actors still make money from it? Does Drake still
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:it depends,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Okay.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:it depends, uh, on what their deals were.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:topic. Because this, this is, I, I understand that what I'm about to go into is kind, is kind of gross to be honest. But I wondered like, why does Drake want to go on this broadcast? And this is, this is horrible. I will fully admit that what I'm about to say is terrible. But like he had nothing really going on in his life and he was kind of struggling a little bit and then he goes on this and things start going a little bit better for him. And it is, it is a little bit of a cash. Grab of a kind. Um, I'm not saying that's the whole entire reason that Drake does it'cause that, I don't even know if I really want to talk about that, but I I, in the other show that I'm gonna gonna talk about it is the dark side of kid influencers. It's follows very much this idea. they, there's a family where. They create a YouTube channel, and the YouTube channel does very, very well. These kids make a lot of money and they're all, they're all together and they play together, but it becomes grosser and grosser and they get pushed more and more and more. And at fully bought into, I'll dig more into what the show really is about, but I'm fully bought into the fact that this mom is just an evil, disgusting, horrible person. But they claim that these kids got sexually abused and then the parents settled for like$200,000 out of court instead of fighting this tooth and nail. And I don't know a parent who really believes that their kid got sexually abused. Who wouldn't fight with everything that they have, and there is no way they would settle for$200,000 for having their kids sexually abused. Absolutely no freaking way. And it makes me wonder, well, how, how much can I trust these other parents that are explaining that all this crap happened? How much did you do to your kid? How much? It just makes me not know where to trust. Um, and I'm not saying that. Drake just did this just for the paycheck. I don't know. I don't want to think that, but it was a, it, it was a a, brought him back into the limelight a little bit. think I'm being absolutely just like the worst person ever? I don't, feel gross saying that. I really do. Am I being completely outta line saying that at all?
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:I don't think it's unfair. Um, I don't think it's true though
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Okay. I don't know. I don't
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:because. Financially. Drake hasn't benefited from it.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I mean, his music and stuff pop off because this became a pretty big thing that he literally made music about this topic that.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:I have not heard that music. I do know he was going through like a resurgence with his music before it came out.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Okay.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Uh.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:before, I don't know. I,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:I,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:know.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:I feel like he was trying to rebuild his brand, not financially benefit from it. I don't think it was a cash grab, uh, because before this show came out, there was a bunch of scandals concerning Drake and. Uh, statutory rape and him claim aiming innocence and that he didn't know and a whole bunch of bad press and stuff. And I don't want to speak towards the truthness of that or not'cause I don't know.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I don't
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:What I do know is his reputation was pretty terrible and him telling his story gives you more empathy to his situation after, at least it did for me. Where I was like, okay, this is the kind of stuff he was dealing with. And then immediately following this, he had some situation with somebody who claimed not to be a minor. Like you feel more empathy to him as a person. And then you also see the person he's at portraying afterwards and him appearing on Josh Peck's podcast and some other places. And all of those are things he's not benefiting from financially either. Uh, I still don't think his music is very big. I know that he makes very little money for the Drake and Josh theme song, um, but don't know if he still makes money from Drake and Josh itself.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:Okay. I said, I, didn't even really want to bring that up. I just don't, I just don't know. And I question kind of all of this, but that doesn't mean I don't think that it's all just disgusting.'cause it is. It's, it's gross.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Yeah, it's.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:gross. Um, with this other show, the. They became pretty, these kids become pretty famous on YouTube and it's all this mom who's kind of putting everything together and she's forcing things through and um, her daughter is very much like the stereotypical, like popular girl, pretty. And she starts bringing these other kids onto the show and these kids are all making millions and millions of dollars. I think one of them said at the top he was making like$34 million a year. Or some a, a gross amount of money. Huge amounts of money, but basically live, eat, creating this content. will go to bed at one o'clock at night. They wake up again. They do what they absolutely have to for school. And then they're making content again, and they're running these kids like slave drivers. And part of the show's point is that there's these protections. For how much a kid can work like Andre and Josh or iCarly, you can make, you can, they can only work so, so many hours. when you have internet influencers, there's no protections for these kids. So a mom or a parent or whoever it is, can run their kids 12 hours a day and there's no, there's no way to fix that. But the mom keeps pushing and pushing and pushing, and they have a video clip. Of her getting drunk and she literally makes out with one of her daughter's friends how he, how she's not in jail. I don't know. It's disgusting. And after this, her brain just starts deteriorating and she has, she's, they're making so much money that they can afford to take in every stray cat. So they have something like 76 straight cats and she will pick up one of the cats and use one of the cats for different sick parts of her personality. Like one of them is Larry and. There's this, uh, video of a girl, she's like 11 years old, and he, she grabs Larry and she's like, ah, Larry just wants you, Larry just wants to rub his dick all over you, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's absolutely disgusting. But this mom is gross. And I don't know I don't know why people do that with kids. Like it's, I don't get it. I've never gotten it. I think it's, it's just despicable and. I know it's a power thing. I know. It's like a, they're so easily influenced, so you can control it thing, but it's, I don't, I don't know why you would do that to a kid. I, it's, it's, it's horrible.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:is'cause they're sick. It's not something you can understand. It's just sick and it's just evil.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:sick and it's gross. The mom would have a different, this was a stuffed animal, and she would just use the stuffed animal to insult these kids. But it wasn't her, it wasn't her who was like this, it was the stuffed animal. It wasn't her who was sexual and disgusting. It was the cat. Um, and she just keeps pushing these kids further and further and further and, um, they never, they never get free. They, they, they never. Find peace. They just are consistently pushed. And these parents, as much as the show doesn't want to admit it, have to kind of want their kids to keep doing this because they're making so much money. Thousands and thousands of dollars of money, uh, a month doc, uh, doctor money for your life, whole life surgery, money, um, even more than that. And they don't talk about the fact that. Maybe these parents do just want the paycheck and they overlook things because the parents get the paycheck in the all quiet on set, they talk about the pressures of the kid because now the kid is like the financial bread whitter for their family, getting their family outta skid row, that kind of thing. But they don't bring up the parents that I'm sure are putting some pressure on these kids to keep them in a bad situation because of the, of the, of the dollars, and cents. Um, in the, in the dark side of kid influencers, they show a lot of scenes where the moms are crying because of what the kids go through. And I'm sure that they are really sad. I mean, what, what parent would be, but then I get to that point where they settled for all of this trauma that was done to their kids for$200,000. That's it. The, the mom never has to admit that she did anything wrong. She never has to go in front of a jury. She never has to be tried for all of this sick stuff that they're talking about. And they did it for$200,000. Half of that's gonna be gone in taxes. That in, in today's money. That is just not a whole lot, especially for these people who have been making hundreds of thousands of dollars, um, millions of dollars. It just leaves me with a sickness because like these producers aren't, aren't taking care of these kids. These parents aren't taking care of these kids, and they're all being sold for money and I, I don't know how to fix it. It just, it just loved me sick. It just loved me sick.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Well, I think that's what they wanted.'cause uh, all quiet onset does touch on the parents. Um, it's not a big point that they make, but they do touch on it.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:If they do it
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Um,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:dad a little bit.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:well, not just Jake's dad, they talk about a lot of the parents. Uh. And their roles and how they were involved and all that kind of stuff, and the money that they were on. Um, you also have to understand that this information is coming from kids, so you have to take it with a little bit of doubt. Um, with the dark side of kid influencers. I haven't seen it, so I don't really know all of the details or anything, but. In terms of the court case, you're also gonna have a lot of people whispering in your ear. You're gonna have lawyers telling you what's best, and then there's what's said and what's provable and what's provable in court are all very different things. Um, so you, you have to take that into account. Like at the very beginning you said, I don't see a parent settling for$200,000 for this, and I'm saying like. If you have enough people who are pushing back against you and a lawyer who's saying like, I agree with you, it's disgusting what they did, but we just can't prove it in court. This is your best option. And you have a bunch of people who are saying, stop pushing this. Let it go. I could see it getting to that point where they do settle.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:they literally have a video. O this woman kissing an underage minor, like making out forcibly, making out, grabbing his head. They have a video of it, they show it,
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Right. They can prove that, but they can't prove all of these other things that they're claiming. Right. So you're talking about all of these very specific things in all of this is it's like. You can prove some, you can't prove others. There's benefit of the doubt. There's, he said, she said there's a lot more going on and especially in a court of law.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:I get that. I get your point. Your point makes sense, but you have to, the idea is to show, and maybe that's just what the show is, maybe the show is their answer to the court case. That's totally
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:It is the, the show is the court of public opinion, which is a lot lower standard than. Actual court,
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:actual court, but you have this video so you can at least cause reasonable doubt that more of this stuff wouldn't be true because you know that she got drunk and made out with an underage minor, like at the very least, you know that. And that would
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:uh, can you prove her blood level intoxication of that? Can you prove that the right, like.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:can just show that she
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:You can prove that.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:She forcibly made out with a 17-year-old boy.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Well, that's also a matter of perspective and a defense attorney can claim angle and conversations had leading up to it and this, that and the other. I'm just saying, and it's also, you don't need to prove benefit of the doubt on one thing and cause the other things to fall. You have to prove everything that you're claiming. It's not one, it's not dominoes, it's in court. You have to prove every single thing.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:to get the claim. Yes. To change the public opinion.
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:Court wouldn't have changed public opinion.
konlin-gappmayer_6_05-07-2025_200048:You don't, I think this case would've become a Johnny
josh-dietrich_6_05-07-2025_160045:been on the news for a week, and then it would've disappeared, and I. Nobody would've talked about it ever again, and the parents would've gotten funny. Looks for about like, I don't know, a year maybe, and.
