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Mission Impossible Final reckoning, Mission Impossible Rankings,
00:00 - Mission Impossible
06:19 - Mission Impossible Rankings
22:15 - Independence Day
36:11 - Lies of P
56:15 - The Accountant
Hey everybody. This is onscreen offscreen show where we like to talk about the media we, uh, take in throughout the week, and then discuss a little bit on how it affects our lives. Uh, we've got a little bit of an interesting e episode for you guys this week. I'm gonna have Conlin talk about your first epi, your first topic, and then we're gonna do a little ranking for you guys. Just a quick one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay. Um, so I went and saw Mission Impossible, the final reckoning last night, and I have a lot of thoughts. I've been thinking about this kind of all day. It is there, there's, there's some problems with this movie, but I still highly, highly recommend if you haven't seen it, going to the theater and watching this movie, because I don't think we'll ever get anything like this ever again. Um, this feels like Tom Cruise knows that he's getting old. And he put absolutely everything to do something absolutely badass before he's done. That's how it felt like to me. everybody has talked about, and you've seen little clips of the airplane scene. The airplane scene is unbelievably badass and it is worth watching this whole movie just to watch that scene because it's so freaking cool. He is just, and you can in other scenes where he is done crazy stuff. I've never seen the fear on his face, but in this movie, you can see the fear and the struggle as he's holding onto this airplane as it's flying thousands of feet in the air and it is awesome. The whole scene is so cool. The part where he goes in the submarine is also so cool and it's riveting on the edge of your seat. It would be worth watching the movie just to watch those two scenes. The problem is in a lot of the other aspects of the movie. I'm not gonna get into huge spoilers since this just came out. It's a really big, it's a really big film. Um, with the sub marine scene. Every single time Tom Cruise has done something in some of these movies, you're like, that fills on the edge of impossible, but like somebody could actually pull it off. The end of the submarine scene feels like they pushed it too far for the first time, unfortunately, and it kind of pulls you out of the believability of the movie. Along with that, you have a lot of exposition jumps, so they do a lot of cool stuff with tying this movie in with the other franchises. I loved a lot of the stuff they did with that. I thought it was really smart. I thought it was well written. But for people who aren't fans of the series, they had to explain exactly how this tied into movie one. How does this tie into movie two? How does this tie into movie three instead of just having it happen and people having to figure it out? There's a cool part where they have the, um, the scientist that he robs from in the first, first movie pop up in this movie. But then they have to explain, and this is where he came from and this is how it happened and this is why he's and this place now. And it's all just, if you paid attention, you would know what happened. don't have to get it force fed to you. And there's a lot of force feeding in this movie, but along with the force feeding are a lot of coincidences where you are. Say how, how did that happen? How did the person end up there? They just, people, characters just kind of pop up outta nowhere. Where did they come from? What's the explanation for that? Um, there's a lot of information that they gather throughout both movies. That is not easy information to get. In fact, I don't know how anyone else would have this information, but the main villain somehow knows this information. I don't really know how, um, other foreign governments know this information. I don't really know how our main government knows the information. I don't really know how, and it leads to a movie that is wildly entertaining, but I don't think will actually age as well as most of the other mission Impossibles have. I would rate this movie positively on the action set pieces alone as a movie as a whole. I have to rewatch the second one to see if this is the worst one or the second worst, and I don't know. But again, I'm telling everybody to watch this movie because I don't think we will ever get a stunt like that airplane ever again. I don't think there's anyone else in Hollywood that would be allowed to do the stunt. Um, there's so many safety protocols now. There's so many red tape lines that Tom Cruise has been doing this for long enough that he gets to cut those red tapes and just do whatever the hell he wants. get to watch that and it's, it's fantastic. Bravo to Tom Cruise. Bravo for what he put together. Bravo for being able to do that. I still enjoyed the movie, but this one has a lot of problems.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, so what would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Um, I want to get a seven just because of the how freaking cool both of those stunts are. I, it might go a little bit down from that, but for now I'll give it a seven because like also with the main villain number, the, the seventh movie explains his backstory a lot and you build up this mystery of like, how does Ethan know this guy who, I can't even remember his name'cause he's kind of a lackluster villain, but none of, none, none of that gets answered in this movie. it feels like a lot of seven was kind of a wasted time because you don't actually get any of the answers for this movie. Um. Mission Impossible is all about doing these really clever tricks that are just beyond reality, but they're clever and he makes this kind of twist and comes up with a great idea at the very end. There's not really any of that in this movie and the very end of the movie, I think there's, people are gonna love the end of this movie'cause it fits with the franchise and then there are, people are going to be very lackluster about it and kind of wish it felt more final. And I'm one of those people, so I want to give it a seven, it might go down a little bit. I don't know.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Now, as things sit right now, I know you said you're not sure, but there are eight Mission Impossible movies. What is your number eight Mission Impossible movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:My number eight Mission Im movie right now is number two. I have to rewatch it, but right now it's number two.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, number seven.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Uh, this one,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Number six.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:number seven.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Number five,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Uh, number three
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:four.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:number. I have to, I mix up which one's? Rogue Nation and which ones? One second. Lemme look. What? Go ahead.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:It is five rogue nation's. Five.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Rogue Nation. Number five. then I would say number five.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Four.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Number four
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Number three.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:number. I need to actually write down the list. I have said, have I said number three yet?
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No, you were going to say it around five and then you said 5, 8, 7, 6, 5.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:3 5
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:2, and your all time favorite.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:is fallout'cause. Fallout's awesome.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, well just for everybody's edification, uh, I have not seen the new one, so I will not be rating it, but my number seven is two. I actually think number two is really good. It just doesn't fit in the series. It's very different and the first half is just kind of weird, um, to be honest. But the latter half is actually a really good movie. And I kind of like how it starts with him climbing on the cliff. Uh, then tide at number six, I have, uh, rogue Nation and tied at number six. I have three. And tied at number six, I have two. And tied at number six, I have one. And tied at number six, I have, uh. Four and tied at number six. I have five, and at number one I have fallout because guess what Everybody, every Mission Impossible is the exact same movie. Just pick your favorite stunt and you have your favorite Mission Impossible movie. I think Fallout is clearly the best one because you have just another mission, a possible movie, but with Henry Cavel this time and he does the armed shotgun thing and that alone makes it the best one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Henry C's fantastic. That movie every, I agree. There's a lot of similarities between the movies. I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:actually,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:they are all the same.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:one is quite a bit different too. It's much more of a.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No, it's the same.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:A thriller type movie where it's more thought out like old school spy stuff versus the later series, which gets a little bit more, I wanna say, like Fast and the Furious
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Do you have Tom Cruise doing a stunt?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yes,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Does he do an impossible stunt?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:yes,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Does Tom Cruise, Ethan Hunt's character trust somebody from his organization who ends up betraying him?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:yes.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Is the plot exactly that thick?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Some of them have other aspects to
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:That's
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:they
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:mission impossible movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:thing. They all basically do the same thing. Maybe this one will be your favorite, because that is not what they do. It does. In this movie,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Oh, actually, hold on, I wanna time out. I want a correction. Uh, number seven is actually my least favorite. Number two is my second least favorite. The re are all tied down, number six, except for fallout, which is number one, uh, simply because number seven is part one. And it's a lot of buildup and sounds like they didn't even deliver on it, so that makes it even worse.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah, I debated having seven lowered.'cause I don't know, it kind of feels like you're wasting your time with some of the stuff that happens with eight. But I think there are different levels of good and is an aspect to like, which stunt is your favorite? But I like some of the side characters that are in, like, that makes a difference. There's what villain is in. It does make a difference. Like there are other differences than just, it's the formula. You can do the formula in different levels of goodness.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, you're right. James Bond does it great. But you know what? The difference between James Bond and Mission Impossible is
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:What?
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:rate the worst. James Bond movie on a scale of one to 10,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Um, like
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:zero out of 10. It is terrible. Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:the worst mission impossible for you. Number two, on a scale of one to 10.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Six and a half.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay? So for me personally. You're talking about all these differences, but all of the mission impossibles are like seven and a half and eights, all of them. There are some that make some slightly better. So if I was really doing a true list, would all of them be tied for number six? No. But like
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:They're
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:you're talking about microscopic between a 7.8 and a 7.9 and an 8.2, like. That's what you're talking about with Mission Impossible. I love Mission Impossible. Mission Impossible is my formula. I absolutely love them. They're all eights out of 10. I would just give number seven, like a 7.5'cause it is a lot of buildup, but there's still some cool stunts. And I would give number two, I guess 7.5 because it has a lot of weirdness at the beginning. Like the first half of that movie is essentially all the people that want to sleep with Ethan Hunt and like, I don't care. But it's still a fairly entertaining movie. And I think if it wasn't called Mission Impossible, it would be more popular. But
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think if it wasn't called Mission Impossible, it would be a forgotten movie.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I think it would be another spy movie and some people would like it and some people wouldn't. And you know, it would be another one of those. But it gets a lot of hate because it's called Mission A Possible.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:does get a lot of hate. I, I literally think it would be a forgotten movie.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:be like, oh, Tom Cruise made that one spy movie. That wasn't very good. I forget that that one even happened.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah. But yeah, so like in practicality, if I apply my own logic and which one had the coolest stunts, right. Fallout's my favorite, rogue Nations number two. Uh, A three is the one where it does the laser swan dive. Right. Three would be my next favorite.'cause that's just iconic. Um, right. So you like I could really partition them that way.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:number one, I believe.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Number one. Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Uh, number one then I don't remember which one.'cause they're all the same plot. I can't separate them aside from side characters like Henry Cavel doing the shotgun thing. But yeah, when we're talking about the difference in mission apostles. All of them fall between a seven and a half and an eight and a half for me, most of them landing on right around an eight. And if we don't do this tense thing, they're all pretty much eights. So
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:But I mean,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:they're all tied.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:judging just by stunts, then Ghost Protocol is the best one because the, uh, bird Koffi one that he does, where he is on the tall building in the world is the coolest stunt period. That's stunt is so cool. If, um, Jackie Chan
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:The, the plane stunt in fallout is my favorite stunt.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:oh, the, the plane stunt in this new one is super cool and it has it, it's close, but. That stunt where he is on the tallest building in the world and he jumps out. The is so cool. If, um, Jackie Chan hadn't run down a skyscraper, that would be my favorite stunt of all time. But Jackie Chan ran down a freaking skyscraper and nothing's gonna beat that ever.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Uh, like, but like I said, it's just pick your favorite. I don't think there is a correct, right. Best stunt or stunt. It's a pick your favorite stunt and you have your favorite Mission Impossible movie. That's the point that I'm making. Um, last thoughts on mission. I possible.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Uh, just like go, go see the movie. Seriously. I know I said that before, but don't think anyone will be allowed to do a stunt like you see with the airplane stunt in this movie ever again. And you should go see that on a big theater. It is super cool. Even the rest of the movie has some let downs.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Well, Tom Cruise is working on seven more movies. By the way,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't think he's gonna do anything this big. It felt like a, I know that I'm getting too old and I'm going to give it my absolute all to do something epic. I just,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I don't think Tom Cruise has that level of logic.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:you don't think so, you think you'll go for something
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:He's in Scientology. He leads Scientology
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I know that, but this
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:calls. A lot of questions to logic.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It is insane.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I believe you.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:And I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:But even that, you said he's already done something cooler.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I know, but this feels like a goodbye. That's what
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:me. And
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I think it's a good buy to Ethan Hunt. I don't think it's a good buy to Tom Cruise doing stunts because he just loves it too much. Like did you know Tom Cruise got into an F1 car and within a matter of minutes was lapping almost as fast as a Formula One driver?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yes. It's insane. Yeah, I know.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:He's Tom freaking Cruise. Okay. He's gonna be doing insane things. I just don't know if it's gonna be under the Mission Impossible banner anymore.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Huh?
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:he's doing Top Gun three,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:so he's doing some cool stuff like
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:is doing some cool stuff. I hope that I'm wrong. I kind of think that this will be the last one of this level, but hopefully I'm wrong. The guy is almost 63 years old,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, but he's Top Cruise and like as for, is anybody gonna be able to do what he does? Yes.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't think anyone he's, they're gonna be allowed to, I think Tom Cruise can do it because he is Tom Cruise. I don't think other people will be allowed to do it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, but when you don't have Tom Cruise, somebody will fill the void.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:but I don't think Hollywood will allow them to do it like he
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:It's not always up to Hollywood. Like what's his name from Top Gun that wants to be Tom Cruise. Like he's into doing his own stunts.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like it's not like there's nobody else with any relative fame who wants to do what Tom Cruise does.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think a lot of the safety things will get in the way of doing what Tom Cruise does
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And Tom Cruise fired his safety guy and hired a new one so he could do what he does. And you don't think anybody else is gonna do that?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I, I don't think, I don't think they'll allow, allow new actors to do that. I don't think they will.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:New actors know, but experienced actors Sure. And actors who are off doing it on their own, like. The guy from Top Gun, what is his name? He's also Twisters
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Glen close.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Glen Powell.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Is it Glen? No.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yep. Glen Powell. Not Glen Close. Glen Close is a rockstar.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:No.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Powell is the actor.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Is the the big douche bag type guy in in Top Gun Maverick.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Glen Powell?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Is it Glen Powell? Okay, I'm wrong.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah. In Dungeons and Daddies. His name is Glen Close after the singer. Glen Close.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:okay. Yeah, it's Clin Powell. You're right, you're right. I was wrong.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Anyway, like he's out there already kind of starting to want to do that trend and is starting to do it. And like is he doing all of the things at this moment? No. But you also have like, uh, the Gorge and him, what's his name? Also from Tom Gunn. Miles Teller also doing stuff like as, as long as there's a market for it, there's gonna be somebody who's gonna wanna do it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:think there's people who are gonna want to do it, but I think a lot of that safety stuff will get in the way. even, even in this movie, the uh, submarine scene is genuinely, is super cool and super tense. you can tell that there was some CGI with that scene that pulled it out a little bit. It did.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:even though
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I don't think it's safety. I think it's money.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:think it's money.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah. People do the CG stuff to save money, not to save safety. And when you have somebody who says, I'm paying for it and I want to do the submarine thing for real, you're gonna have people who are willing to do it and able to do it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay. We'll
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like, I just, I seriously doubt that the, it's just gonna vanish as soon as Tom Tom Cruise dies. Like it's,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:but I don't think it'll be the same level. I don't think it'll be that old school. I just grabbed a plane in. The sky and held onto it while somebody did loop de loops and I just held onto the wires. I don't
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:but people do that now without it being a movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That's true, that's true. And maybe some other movie studios will allow them to do it, but I think Hollywood's not gonna allow'em to do it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I absolutely do. Like, look at what Red Bull does. They
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It's crazy.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:had somebody jump out of their own plane into another plane
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:and fly the other plane, like,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:jump out of a plane onto a net, they had somebody jump out of space
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:yeah. But like I, the plain one is like a stunt and like, was there safety wires? No. Did Tom Cruise have safety wires? Yes. So like you're talking about safety and I'm like, there's somebody who's gonna want to do it. There's gonna be some people who wanna see it, and there's gonna be somebody who's gonna wanna pay for it. So like,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It'll just keep
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:it's gonna happen. Yeah. Like, yes, I get it. Tom Cruise is like one of a kind. You've only got Tom Cruise and he is just extraordinary in the way that he's extraordinary. Will it change? Yeah, I'm sure it will. But will you get over the top impossible level stunts in movies? I think so.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I just, there's a, there's a want for it. There's a desire for it. There's a reason that there are eight mission impossible movies, even though they just recycle the plot over and over and over again. All right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:you're right, man. Hopefully you're right. All right. Let's
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Uh, let's,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:oh,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:yeah, let me, I'm gonna go ahead and switch over to my topic, which is actually a little bit more aligned than we traditionally are.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Absolutely.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:independence Day, I went back and re-watched it Will Smith. I don't remember this movie being so long.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like it is two and a half hours and it feels like two and a half hours. This is coming from somebody who will watch all the extended edition Lord of the Rings movies without even getting up to pee. Like I could do long, but not when it feels long. And, dang, this movie feels long. And not only is it long when you actually start and think about the overall plot, you're like, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like it really doesn't, and.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I remember loving this movie. I haven't seen it in a long time.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:It's a great movie. I'm not saying it's not great. It absolutely is. Um, it's also like, I feel like if it came out today it wouldn't be as popular, but it does get a lot of credit for the time it came out too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:you also have to take that into credit. Um, you also have some improv stuff, which is kind of funny to me. So like Will Smith hitting the Alien and saying, and what the hell is that smell? That was improv. And it's because he was on the Salt Flats and nobody warned him about the decaying, um, microbiology that's in the Salt Flats that make it stink. So he was literally like, what is that smell? And he thought it was the alien. He thought that they made the alien stink
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:not just like that. He was in the Salt Flats. Um, there's the scene with Will Smith. Uh. Gold bloom and one other actor. And the entire scene is just them ribbing on each other and it's all improv. And you know, kudos to them for that as well. Uh, I don't have any like, big plot holes. It's just not like a super deep thing.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Uh, I forgot that it was the farmer guy who killed himself. So I thought the president was going to, and I thought, what a terrible thing to do in this movie. The president is going to leave that child without a single parent alive. And then the cowboy or the farmer guy does it, and you have a moment of relief. And then I thought to myself, he just did the same freaking thing. He just left his kids without any, any parent, not a one. And he has three kids. And his parent, his kids aren't gonna be taken care of. Like the president's daughter would be like, um. Overall, it's a pretty good movie. Like I still really enjoyed it. Um, this was like, I can feel the passion that went into this.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Mm-hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:somebody really wanted to make it very, very cool. Um, I would give it like a 7.8 out of 10. Like it's so close to that eight. I just don't think I can give it that eight because I don't know how easily I would go back and rewatch it simply because of how long it was. Um, then I went in and turned on Independence Day Reckoning, which was a movie I don't remember ever knowing even existed and I think I figured out why. Um, it's not very long. Uh, it's got some really big actors in it. I think all of the special effects look fantastic. I just saw the worst acting I have ever seen in anything tied with a bunch of really good actors phoning it in, like I felt like Jeff Goldblum was phoning it in. I am a fan of Liam Hemsworth. I think he's a, a really good actor actually. And even he, I was like, dude, are you even trying with this acting?'cause he is sitting there flag a spaceship and he goes, I can't see them. And I'm like, you're barely moving your head, my guy. Uh, specifically if you want to see like the worst acting you've ever seen in your entire life, there's the scene where the scientist from the first one is in a coma and wakes up and is scared that another person who he's never seen before is like face to face with him. He starts screaming and the other actor goes, ah. I'm like, do you know what the budget was for this movie? And that's all you came up with was, ah, I could act better than that and I am not an actor at anyway. And you just went, ah uh, and then you have like this stupid moment where the doctor is dying and the scientist from the first one goes up to him and is like, no, don't die. And he's like, who's gonna water your plants? Who's gonna? And you're like, why are we watching this? Why does the scientist from the first one care? I don't know. Because he didn't know him before and just met him when he woke up from his coma while this guy was obsessing over him. Seemingly, and like. It's not very well thought out either.'cause it is a direct sequel and it's like what if they humans had technology from the aliens and they actually do a really good job of that sometimes. But also if you really think about it, you're like, I'm pretty sure like three fourths of the human population was wiped out in the first one. So in the span of like 20 years, supposedly all of human civilization has replenished. And also all of the engineers and scientists who were probably in the main cities that died, they somehow survived at now we have all this cool stuff, but also what if sometimes we didn't, like they have cool jet things based on the alien technology, but then they also have like an actual helicopter. Yeah. And you think, okay, so they didn't upgrade the helicopters, but then they have a cool jet helicopter thing and you're like, why did the other helicopter even exist that one dude's mom would've lived, had that not been a real helicopter? You could have had a cool space helicopter thing. Why? Why? Why are we doing this? What, what, what is the purpose here? Um, the funniest thing to me is at the very beginning you have Liam Hemsworth and his buddy, and they're in this thing and they're setting up this cool space laser on the moon. Why they sitting it up on the moon? I don't know. Because they already have apparently 50 of those things orbiting earth. Why do they need a land-based one? I don't know. But they're doing it. And Liam Hemsworth's buddy is not paying full attention. So he bumps it and this whole thing starts to crumble and fall and they're like, oh no, it's gonna crash into the people. And the person at the bottom's like, don't save us. Get out of there. And Liam hem versus is like, no, I'm gonna do it. And he saves them. And it's like, why? Why wouldn't you have them save you? And then why do you scold him for saving your life? And why does none of the other pilots who was helping set this thing up in the first place, go and try and help Liam Hemsworth save the people.'cause originally there's like eight of these ship things, building this thing or putting it together and seven of'em scatter because they knock it on accident and now it's gonna fall over. The one guy is like trying to save him, like I understand at first maybe, but when he starts to slow it, you don't think a single other military pilot would've flown back in and helped him lift it back up? I don't think so. Um, you can also see where they were saving budget in this show, because there's a point in time where the commander of the people is like yelling orders over his shoulder, but it's like to nobody because nobody is behind him. So he is like, Hey, go get the things, do the thing. Oh no. And nothing is happening behind him. So you're like, who are you talking to? Um, I think that the show, like, it's forgotten. It probably shouldn't be forgotten because. On its face. It's not a terrible idea. And I think the CG of it is actually very well made. Like the budget for this movie should have been, was probably very, very high. But like, is it as good as the first one? No. Is there some issues? Yes, but I'm just shocked that they put the level of effort into this one and had the acting performances that I was sitting there. Like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, I
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:that even
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:kind of like Jeff Goldblum. I really like Liam Hemsworth. Everybody else is kind of like a no name person to me, other than the other returners from the first one. Um, speaking of which, uh, bill Pullman actually does deliver a good performance, but he's literally the only one. Uh, everybody else was allowed to phone it in and I do not understand a director who was sitting there going like, this is acceptable acting.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah, because it has a pretty good cast. I'm looking at it right now.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Who was the director? Were they allowed to direct anything since, because I sure hope not because they said that that was acceptable. It was not acceptable.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Moon fall. Oh is He is a writer for Moon Fall.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. He can write. I'm fine with him writing. Like I said, I don't think the, like dialogue was actually that bad. I just felt like the actors were either bad or phoning it in. Like I said, Liam Hemsworth felt, literally felt like he could not care less about this movie or the performance or anything.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:he directed the new midway.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No way. That's not possible. There's no way.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I'm looking at
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:That movie's awesome.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That is nuts. I was like, moon fall makes sense. Moon fall sucks. But yeah, directed the New Moon, uh, midway and he directed White House down. It's a pretty good movie.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Uh, white House Down, I would believe day after tomorrow, I would believe, but freaking heck what? I don't understand this at all. Have you seen this one?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:No. So I watched maybe a third of it and I was literally laying on my couch. And my last thought before I fell asleep was, this isn't very good. Why did they make this? And then I fell asleep and I woke up and the movie was over and I didn't have any desire to rewatch it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Uh, that's probably fine. This is not a need to watch. Honestly, if you want to watch something. Like this, don't, um, it's not very good. I would give it like a four and a half out of 10.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Um, and that's only because the CGI is amazing. Like if you wanna see some cool CGI watch this movie. It's got some really good CGI or if you wanna see some absolutely terrible acting, watch the scene when they, when the science guy wakes up. Literally like I've seen b movies with better acting than he did. I'm sure my reaction or my imitating his acting was better than the acting that that guy delivered. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:He directed the first one and he directed the Patriot. This was just a bad movie. This is just a bad movie.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:uh, he directed the first one. He directed 10,000 BC White House down. Midway.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That's
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:don't see that. I don't see the Patriot. I, no.'cause Gibson did the Patriot.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:What I thought too, but it literally says it right here. No, he was the director
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:He directed 2012. I believe that. I believe he directed 2012. I do not believe he directed Midway. That is one of my all time favorite movies. There's no way that this came from the same person.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That's wild, man. Yeah, the Patriot's right there. That's the Patriot's one of my favorite movies. That's crazy. That's crazy. Oh, the guy is not consistent at
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No, not at all. That is absolutely insane. Oh, anyway. Let's go on to your next topic. What do you have for us before we hit our shared topic today?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Lies of PI finally finished it and I love this game. I love it. I love it, I love it. Um, so I was thinking about this and my big problem with this game is the camera. The camera is my big problem with the game. You have the swamp monster where you didn't have any trouble with it at all, but it kicked my ass because it kept putting me in the corner and I couldn't see ways to, to block it. that is really my problem with the game. I think the story is good. I think the atmosphere is good. I think the creating weapons and being able to put them together is absolutely awesome. think the attack patterns and being able to, have to use rolling and you have to use blocking. To really get the game and have it flow really well. I like that really well. Um, and if I rate the original games and I don't rate the DLCs, I think I like this game better than bloodborne.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:That's insane.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think I do. I was, I was looking at a list of bloodborne bosses and of the original game, the ones that stick out to my mind the Blood Star Beast and Martyr Logus up on the rooftop.'cause that is literally my favorite boss fight in anything ever I think is so cool. Right. I love that boss fight, but a lot of the other ones don't really stick in my mind as much. this one had a lot of bosses that stuck in my mind. I think it's technically harder. Um, I like the fact that you have a story that's. Front facing along with the deeper lore. It's a problem that I have with some of these other soft type games, um, that I, I, I like having a story. It's enjoyable to me. I like the way this story goes. I love the twist ending. I think as a base game, I, I, I do, it's close, it's close, but the DLCs is where I really attached to Bloodborne.'cause like the Holy Blade, um, lady Maria Orphan of cas, all of these, these are the bosses that stick in my head, actually the most from Bloodborne. So if I cut out the DLC,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:What about the three that you couldn't beat in the swamp area?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:they
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:They've gotta be memorable to you.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:They are memorable to me, but I've re-thought them and I think the three fight in this game is better than that one. I think it's a better game, a better fight. I.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:You are just talking about memorable bosses, though.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It, it
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I don't wanna get into that right now. But you, you said two and I'm pointing out there's more than two. Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:The
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:about on the bridge, the cleric beast on the first one?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:that, that was the other one that I was gonna possibly bring up.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:What about father Gas? Going and using the music box?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:that one is memorable because I beat it the first time. And a relationship with you. it was just the boss, it would be another boss that was a, that was cool. Cool enough boss, like enjoyable boss. I'm not saying it's bad by saying that,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:like the ones that really stick in my head, if
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:See, that one sticks in my head because of the music box,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:right? You go, you see this little girl, she gives you a music box and if you use the music box on father gas coin, he freezes because it reminds her, him of his daughter. Like the tragedy of that little plot is incredible.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It just sticks in your
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Right. And so that's where I want to go with this conversation is you're talking about memorable bosses, but when was the last time you played bloodborne?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:it's, it has been a long time.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And so recency bias,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:There is a recency bp I, like I said, I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:very close. Very
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:But in bloodborne you have all of those little plots. That's what sets bloodborne apart, right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:You have the little father gas going plot, you have the people's plot, you have the doctor's plot, you have, uh, gregarious madness plot you like, you have all these little side stories that fit into the greater story just so well that it sits it apart. If I had to choose between the, um, changing weapons of bloodborne or the ch building weapons of Liza p, I would choose the bloodborne one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I would choose
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Liza P one.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I wouldn't because the lies of p ones are worse. Like the standard weapons are significantly better than anything you can build.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I disagree completely.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Well, it's mathematically proven to be that way. Like if you're talking about DPS damage per second, the standard weapons are better than anything you can build. Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I, don't think so, but I, I, I'll look into that.'cause I don't think that's true.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:that is 100% true. Uh, and with the bloodborne ones, you can fit it into your play style, meaning you don't just have the weapon, meaning you can transform the weapon, mid fight to change your movement and change your attacks, right? So if you do. Boom, boom, extend, you'll do a cool spin move or whatever, and then you can follow it up with another attack again. So you have more to play with that way. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:So it gives you more movement sets, which
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:yeah, which is a variety, right? You can just use the standard, you can just use the extended
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:you would have what you have in Lizza P, but the fact that you can just instantly transform it mid fight or during a move set is what sets that apart. Um, yeah. I, I think the atmosphere is better in bloodborne. I love the Victorian horror thing better. Uh, I love the, uh, aggressiveness, um, the way it does that by gaining your health back. Um, if you do it fast enough, like that's so cool. Such a cool gameplay mechanic. Um, like lies of p is very clearly my second favorite, um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:drum soft, uh,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:souls born game.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:souls game.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah. It, it just, it is better than any of the Dark Souls.'cause I did not have any struggles with Dark Souls or have that much fun with Dark Souls. Right. So for me it would go bloodborne, big Gap, lies of P, big Gap, Elden ring, dark Souls three and so on.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Right. Um, so I'm not trying to say that lies of P'S a bad game. I'm just trying to say that if you're comparing the two, like you don't have any camera problems with Bloodborne.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:All of the bosses are fair. It's, it just is a more complete package and because it is a, from soft title, you also have all those little touches like the side plot with Father Gas going. Now you do get some of that in lines of P, but not nearly to the extent of pod barn.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay. I like some of the side stories. I like the multiple endings with Liza. PI, like I said, it's very, very close and this is me just finishing the game, so there is a bias there. But I like the weapon movements. I like the diversity of the weapons. I like the story. I like, I I, I like the atmosphere in the world maybe a little bit better, but it's close. Again, they're very close. They are very, very, very close. But. I also struggled with Liza P more just in general, um, a a lot more, and maybe there was a little bit more of a rewarding factor to that because
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:am gonna call BS on that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:uh, besides that boss that you, that you beat for me, that I absolutely struggled with this game more. Absolutely.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:How long did it take you to Beat Bloodborne?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't know,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:How long did it take you to beat this one?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:50 hours.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Bloodborne was significantly more
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:like the time we played together, which wasn't that far into the game, was almost 50 hours.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't think it was 50 hours.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:It was between 38 and 45.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Like I beat the Cleric Beast on my third one, I believe. Gascon was first. Victor Amelia. I don't remember who the what boss. I don't even remember which process is, uh, I don't, that one didn't take that many times. Crystal Emissary, how many times did it take that one? Oh, that was a one time fight. I didn't, Don didn't take more than once. Um, I don't remember. On, in brightness. Blood star Beast took me two times. I just thought that boss was super, super cool. Thus, three shadows were an absolute pain in my ass. And I fought those a million different times until you beat him. Uh, Rome the spider took me three. The witch was one. The one reborn. What is that boss? Which one is that one? Oh. Uh, I don't remember how long it took me. Martyr took me three times. Dark Beast Pearl took me twice. Emma, Amy Gia was a one time Margo's wet nurse was three hosted The Nightmare. I don't remember. Ludwig took me two times. Nightmares took me two times. Lady Maria took me a lot of times. Orphan of Cost took me a whole lot of times. Uh, Lawrence, the first Vic, I don't remember how many times that took me. The first Hunter I beat the first time. So yeah, I just think like times it took me to beat. Most of them weren't even close. I, I fought some of these guys so many times. I. Um, a stupid one-Armed, God, I fought that sucker so many times. The, uh, the nameless puppet I probably fought 40 times. Um, actually Laia, who's supposed to be the hardest one, was a little bit less, but it was still 10 times. And that's is, that's equal to a lot of these bloodborne bosses. Like I, I fought some of these bosses so many freaking times.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, so here's my comment to that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I think you're misremembering because if you really one shot that many bloodborne bosses,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:you would've gotten through that game a heck of a lot faster and is something that like I can't even do now as an experienced blood born player. Um, so I think you're a little bit underestimating the number of times you may have died to a lot of those and saying you one shot them. Like I feel like most bloodborne bosses, even if you do one shot them, you go in kind of half dead. To figure out the movement patterns, die, go in, figure out a little bit more, die, and then go in and have a pretty easy time of it. But two, the other thing I wanna emphasize with that argument is in lies of P, you basically have short areas between bosses. Whereas in blood barn, you have vast areas between bosses.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That's why I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:So you're not counting that time
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:is because the areas in between are, much bigger, much, much,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:and better for the most part. Like I said, the Liz FP area where you're in the swamp area, where it actually gives you like strategic mounds, love that. That's not in bloodborne. You basically just have to get poison into bloodborne, and I hate that. But aside from that one area, the level design is so much better in bloodborne, uh, the kills between the bosses feel so much more satisfying than bloodborne, like.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:the main thing that made me go, maybe bloodborne is still better. I, I don't know. It's, like I said, it's really close. Um, is that one level where you're going up the tower and you have to climb on those beams. I freaking hate that level in Liz PI hate that level. I fell off those beams so many times and it just pissed me off that I didn't enjoy the level design of really at all. I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I don't even know what you're talking about.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Oh, there's a part where. You're just climbing up the tower and there's those beams that you have to walk on, and there's guys that are throwing stuff at you the entire time, and there's, uh, bells that are swinging back and forth. You, you don't remember that.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Nope.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That part drove me freaking crazy. Where bloodborne doesn't have any parts in the map that I was just bugged by. That I remember.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, I, I just, I, I, I know I'm being a little bit defensive of bloodborne'cause it is my all time favorite game,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:but I just. If you break it down into elements, I think in every single element, bloodborne is just better, or it's a matter of opinion, like atmosphere, right? Like I, I prefer the Victorian horror stuff.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think combat is better than lizza PI really do. I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I very clearly don't,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:more
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Nope.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:of you. I think combat is better than Lizza in Lizza. P.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I very strongly disagree with that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:There's other areas, like I can get the atmosphere. I, I like both of them. I could go either way. I get the enemy design and the mo movement of the enemies I think could go either way. Um, I could get the lore. I think that could go either way. Um, I think the story is, is kind of clearly better in lizza p lye, but
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I'd say that's a matter of opinion, specifically because like the way it's delivered, right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:a
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:lies of P you do get it more directly,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Which I,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:if you talked about depth and stuff, you have a clear leaning towards bloodborne. So it's, it's entirely like,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:you like to piece it together and figure it out or have it delivered to you? That's just a preference thing.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That is a preference thing. That's true. So. The one area that I do just think is better is combat.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And I, I just plain disagree with you.'cause I think without bloodborne you don't even get the highs of Liza P's combat because they took so much from it. But you have the transforming weapons, you have more weapon variety, you have more play style variety.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:variety.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yes, you do. You have strength weapons, you have arcane weapons, you have dex weapons, you have. Long weapons and short weapons and,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Do you have
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:lizza P not really because the best weapons are the ones that they give you and they're just one play style. And like you said, you have to block in this one. Right. Uh, I think to make bloodborne easier, you use the, the countering thing, but it's so much more satisfying in bloodborne'cause it's harder. Uh, but yeah, I still love Liza P absolutely. Uh, just not, not to the same level of, of bloodborne.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It's, it's close, man. They're both fantastic games and I'm glad I gotta play it. And I'm so, I'm so excited for the lives of PDLC. I hope they knock it out of the park. I don't really like, they're adding levels to the game of difficulty ready rate rating, but I am
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like they're making an easy medium and hard.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:they're doing a one through five and the
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Ugh.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:that I, yeah, I don't really like it. The reviewer that I watched said that it feels like we've been playing on a three, so you can actually play harder than. The original game, which is kind of cool.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:You can in all the other games too. It's called New Game Plus.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah, I know, I know. and she said she didn't get tested enough, but she thinks that four and five might increase movement sets instead of just making it like, this person has more health. Which if they do that, that's kind of a cool thing. I do like that, I think these games are hard on purpose and they should be hard on purpose. Yeah. I'm still excited for this, for this DLCI hope it's
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Me too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:They're doing a boss rush mode, which I also think is cool, where you can just challenge bosses over and over and over again and try to get as far as you can and do like a leaderboards ranking type of a thing. I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Bloodborne has that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I actually didn't know Bloodborne had that. That's cool. That is cool. Um, and yeah, I, I don't know. I'm excited. I really, I love this game. I love this game.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, I'm glad. I love it too. What would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Nine.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Uh, are you more excited for the DLC or for the sequel?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Oh, the equal probably.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Me too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah. That's a, that was a, that
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. Me too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Ending was great.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:As a P is a to see the new worlds or new elements that Dorothy would bring. Uh, so that's, that's why I'm way more excited for the, the sequel and not so much the DLC.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Really, really hope that they are incorporate the red shoes and like tapping them together in combat.'cause that'd be sweet.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I'm not sure that they will. That would be a very interesting thing. And I don't know what it would do actually. That's what it's gonna be, the bailout thing where you lose all your souls and go back home.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Actually. That's a good idea. Honestly,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:they're gonna do, is that you have the shoes, you get to tap'em together, and then you go back. But you lose all your progress.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That would, yeah. I don't know. I'm, I'm very pumped for it. I'm pumped for this DLCI hope that they do a good job with both
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I hope so too. Uh, with that, let's head to our shared topic. The accountant starring, what's his name? Ben Affleck. Uh, why don't you go first? What'd you think?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I just don't like Ben Affleck. I. I've tried and I'm like, what's, what's the other guy's name that I thought I didn't like? Matt Damon. Matt Damon has some really good stuff
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:He has a lot of really good stuff
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:he has a lot of really good
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:'cause he's a really great actor.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Ben Affleck is not that great, and this is a movie that has a really cool idea where you like have this autistic kid who grows up to be the accountant for like major crime institutions. And it's like a, it's a cool idea there's a lot of aspects of this movie that are really well done. I think the writing is good. I think the, the cinematography is pretty good. I think the direction's pretty good, but Ben Affleck is doll as hell in this movie and he doesn't do a good job and he ruins this movie and I was kind of excited for the second one, but now I don't even care'cause I just, I just don't, I don't think he's good. I don't think he's a good actor.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:What would you rate this movie on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It's above an average six.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:If, if it was someone else besides Ben Affleck, this could have been a movie, I could have joined over and over again, like a 7.5. He drops at a full point and a half.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay, fair enough. I have never seen Ben Affleck better.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay. All right.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:When have you seen Ben Affleck do a better job? Be honest.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't know. Let me look up really quick and see if I can see something like,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Batman terrible.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:it is awful. Argo.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Hunting. Thank goodness he wasn't in that movie. More. Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Argo.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:okay. I haven't seen Argo, I've never seen Ben Affleck better. Uh, I think there are elements of this that is very, very good and interesting. In concept, uh, I think having him be autistic is a very good concept,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:but Ben Affleck doesn't play autistic. So what you have as an autistic kid who came, became a slightly socially awkward adult,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yep.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:and the rest of this movie is very, uh, mediocre at best, four and a half out of 10 for me.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Oh, you were even lower than me. Wow. Okay. I thought everything else was pretty good. Besides Ben.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I thought that, uh, in concept it's got some good ideas in execution. At its best, it is mediocre, very average spy action thriller show.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And when you really look at it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:should be better than it is?
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.'cause that concept is good. You just have to get a good actor and a good writer to actually put those together into something. But you don't, you just kind of have a before and after and not really a cause and effect. Um, with the autism and the actors give dull performances like we're talking about Ben Affleck, but what about the guy who plays Ben Affleck's dad? Like his whole character is like, I'm this hardened army veteran guy and I don't accept anything less. And you're only gonna make a pansy child by coddling him, and he needs to go through hardship to outgrow his autism. Right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And he delivers it exactly like I just delivered it. An explanation of the character. He doesn't actually get hardened or emotional or fiery or anything. He's just like, no, continue beating each other up. Brothers also, uh, the brother element, good idea and concept, but man, oh man. Did you telegraph it way too in advance to have it have any kind of emotional meaning when you tried to have it be and if it wasn't for Bernthal, who actually I do think does a really good job in the movie, but there's just not enough of him. Uh, the it is, it just, ugh. I did not love this movie. I heard the accountant two was coming out and I was not very excited for it. And I'm even less excited now, like. Why would you watch this when you could watch a dozen other action thriller movies?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't know. I really, I have no idea. I don't know. I mean, Anna Kendrick is okay in it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:No, she's not. I really don't think she is. I think she's kind of like Anna Kendrick.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:She is Anna Kendrick. Uh, JK Simmons is usually great. Is okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:He is like, is pretty good. I guess it's, it's just not,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Like this could be a really good movie. I agree with you. But the fact that it could be a really good movie does not mean that it is, and that's why it's a four and a half for me. There are some really good elements to it, right? Like Bethal, whatever his first name is. I wanna say John, he does a really good job. JK Simmons is in it. I think he does a pretty good job. He's not great, but he is JK Simmons and he, he does an okay job and you have good concepts, but the writing not great action sequences, not great set pieces, not great. You have a before and after and not a cause and effect, and that's not great either. So at the very end of the day, right, is it mediocre? No, it's not for me. Uh, your main character is the worst character in it. And for that reason alone, I would rather watch Black Panther. Right? It's a Black Panther
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:up
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:isn't, okay. It's a mediocre movie, but everybody does a good job in it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I thought this was mostly pretty good I would rather watch this than Black Panther. Maybe I should give it like a 5.5 of a six, but I don't want to watch this movie again, but I would watch this over for Black Panther.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:So I think your measuring of Black Panther is not five out of five then
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay. Because I
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:because we seem to be on the same page,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:yes,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:but it seems like you just genuinely don't like Black Panther.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Black Panther to me is mediocre, like you were saying. And I think this one has some good elements that make it slightly better than mediocre or Black Panther has nothing memorable and it is just
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. I wouldn't say nothing memorable. Chadwick Bossman does a really great job. You have a really cool action sequence. Um, you have very good set pieces.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:The only thing that movie I think is like, not just blah, is um, the guy who plays goum at the very beginning of the movie, and that's it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I think it has some good stuff and some uh, stuff and some not great stuff. Like the plot is very, very basic.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Very basic.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And in execution, the whole thing is ultimately very myth. But if we're talking about the accountant here, right? Concept, good execution, not good.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Right? Which one did I have more enjoyment watching the first time?
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:You had more enjoyment with Black Panther.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Panther? Yeah. I went into Black Panther and I was like, I don't understand how popular this is and how big it is because it's just so meh, but I wasn't criticizing it. There's no giant potholes or issues or. Bad performances.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That's a good point. It just really wasn't even that much to really talk about. I.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah. It's a very mediocre show. It, it's so middle of the pack and meh that like, but there's nothing bad, like I can't criticize it other than saying like, this is the same as every other Marvel superhero movie just with black actors. And that is the only thing that changes it at all.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah. Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Whereas, but like
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:This one has a
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:it's still fine.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:that you can actually talk about, or Black
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:doesn't really, it is just a
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:like Black Panther, I can whip out my phone, I can ignore it and have a great time. Right. And so Matt, I don't need to pay attention to it. I'm not gonna miss anything. It's just there. And like I said, I do think that the set piece of the fight between Black Panther and the cousin brother or whatever on the waterfall is gorgeous,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:It's
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:a very good, and the, the fighting sequence,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:but good.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:it's well choreographed though, right? Like
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:let the, you've got the Jason Bourne movies, which you hate, but you can actually look at that choreograph and you, okay, that makes sense. Nobody's overpowered, nobody's doing stupid stuff. It's a very basic fight, but there's no problems with it either. So would I rather watch the Black Panther than the accountant? Yeah, absolutely.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think you've shifted my opinion. I think you're right, men. I think you're right. I'll
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Woo-hoo.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I think you're right.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Hooray.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I don't say that very often, but I think you're right.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, and it's just like, I don't know, I think the hardest thing for the accountant to pass over is the fact that it's in a genre. That there's so many things in
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:That are just better.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:that are just better and
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:I, I'm, yeah, I, I'm not a fan of the porn movies. I would rather, I think I would rather watch the Born movies.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:well, that's'cause those are fantastic. Right? But the accountant is fighting with all of James Bond. It's fighting with all of the born movies. It's fighting with
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Mission
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:mission impossible movies. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:better than it.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:it's, it's fighting with the Kingsman Eve, even though it's a slightly different thing, but.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:uh, one I reviewed a while ago. What was that movie called? That was, that was good. Um, uh, where he's a smart tech guy, he blows up a pool. What is that movie called that you wanted to
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:The amateur.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:The amateur. I also think that's better than this.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Yeah, I'm sure that it is. And I have full confidence that it's better than this. Uh, what is that show? Uh, I love it with Eddie Redman and
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah. You've talked about it
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:I rev
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Still haven't watched it yet.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:the jackal, uh, day of the Jackal. I like it's competing with so much and so much of that is such good stuff.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:And then you have like MCU, which is not really our thing. So, and it's competing with only its own shows.'cause DC can't put anything together. So the pool is also a lot smaller there. So, to be fair, right, like it's, it's up against it a lot more. But like I just, I really didn't have a good time with this one. Now, to be fair with it, it wasn't so bad that I would've turned it off either.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Um, yeah, I agree, but I would, I, I don't have any desire to watch the second one. I.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Oh, I don't either. But like there are some stuff that we watch and we finish watching simply'cause we agreed to talk about it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:This is not one of those, it wasn't so bad, right? So that's why I give it that four and a half is like, it wasn't so bad. Did my life change at all? Because I watched it now. Am I even glad that I watched it? No, but it wasn't so bad that I'm sitting here. Like, I wish I never had watched that. So
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:Fair enough.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:enough. Yeah, dude.
josh-dietrich_3_05-28-2025_141307:Okay. And with that, we're gonna go ahead and wrap up this episode. Thank you. Anybody for watching or listening? Um, please comment, subscribe, do the YouTube things. Uh, we very much appreciate it. Um, like Conlin said in our last episode, love getting comments. I love getting'em. Love reading'em, love seeing what you guys think. Love the ones that agree with me, even though to be fair, most of them have agreed with Conlin so far. So let's agree with me more often, people. That's what I think. And have a great day.
konlin-gappmayer_3_05-28-2025_181305:See you guys.
