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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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Magnolia
Magnolia
Last man on earth, One Tree Hill, Magnolia
00:00 - Last Man on Earth
17:03 - One Tree HIll Season 6
28:13 - Magnolia
Hey everybody. It is onscreen offscreen back with another episode this week. We like to talk about all the things that we've been watching and how they influence who we are and where we want to go. Let's start with you, Josh, with Last Man On Earth, season One. Tell us what you thought.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Uh, so this is something that I had gotten clips of on TikTok as per my usual way of follow, finding new stuff. Um. It's the scene from season episode one where he's driving and she freaks out because he drives through a stop sign and he freaks out because he is like, there's literally nobody else on earth. There is no reason for this. And then he crashes into the store and I was like, okay. That was kind of funny. And then it popped up on my TikTok again and a third time, and I was like, okay, what the heck is this show? Why is it blowing up? Let's see what this is. So I did it. Pulled it up. Brought it up. You told me like, oh my gosh, season one is so good.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:It was so funny.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:so
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:So I was like, all right, I've gotta watch this, I guess. And I turned it on. And lemme tell you guys, this is not my kind of comedy at all. This is very TED esque. This is very. Andy Sandberg style, hot rod comedy, nacho libre. It's, it's not my thing usually. Uh, this series never made me laugh out loud. Like nothing really like got me, but I was thoroughly enjoying this one all the way through like. Every other piece when he was thinking about killing Todd and accelerating and then backing up and then accelerating and then backing up, like the timing on it was perfect and they didn't let it go on too long and it was really good. And then you get to the end of the season where he's become, tried to become this like honest person and Todd's like, wait, you did that to me? Were you trying to kill me? And he is like, well, honestly, yes, but I didn't, and it's, it's really good. Um, is this the best show ever? No. Is it the funniest show ever? No. Is it entertaining enough for you to watch? Yes. For me, actually, the funniest part is when he was going to clean out the pool and gets really angry and falls in. That was the part where I was like, okay, this show can be really, really funny. No, it didn't make me burst out laughing, but I had a little chuckle about it and.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:Just the fact that he saw a hole in the diving board I thought was so funny.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:See, I didn't find that funny, but I did find it funny when. She was like, how did you, why would you do that? That's disgusting. You know? And he's like, I'm fine with this. This works for me. Leave me alone. And I'm sitting there and I'm like, so many guys would be that way in this situation where they were like, this works. Leave me be, it's just fine. And you know, the last surviving girl would be like, that's disgusting. You know? Um,
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:It was done so well with that dichotomy.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:character. Is either really annoying to me or kind of like good at times. Uh, like when they introduce her and she's correcting grammar, I'm like, yeah, I would leave.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:So that's what I thought too. That was
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:I would, I would straight up leave her. I don't even care at that point. If I had to live with that, I'd be like,
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:like
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:no.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:the rules when there's nobody around at all. I was like, Ugh, ugh.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:No, see that, that didn't bother me. Like I agree with you. That's uh, that's very frustrating. That's annoying. But when she was like, don't end your sentences with a preposition, and he's sitting there like, there's no way that that's right because he's talking about pointing a gun at her and she's just freaking out about grammar and it's like, no. I don't care. And like I'm, I'm surprised it went that direction, the what direction it did. Um, because he, he straight up says, Hey, you know that phrase, I wouldn't sleep with you even if you were the last person on earth. Well, I wouldn't sleep with you even if you were the last person on earth. And it's like, yeah,'cause she sucks. That is an irritating person to be around. But then there are times where she's like a forgiving, nurturing person, like after they get married and she like stops being high and mighty and takes an interest in his stuff and starts using the flamethrower. I'm like, what a lovable person. Why was she not like this ever before? Like, not even an inkling of actually taking an interest in him and what he likes. She just like berates him for three episodes. And then she's kind of cool and it's like, okay. I go, that's fine. He is very much like a, a typical guy in the last man on earth kind of mentality, which at first is very compelling. And like he saws a hole in a diving board and makes it his toilet'cause they're running outta water and he used all his water for his toilet and it's like, yeah, that. I get it. Yeah. And then the hot girl shows up and is like, I've been here for two weeks. And he's like, I could have met you first. Are you kidding me? Like, okay. Yeah, that's kind of funny. That's kind of funny.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:It
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:And then the other girls hap show up and it's like, okay, I'm tired of this.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:The other girl showing up is where I think it starts to tip off a little bit, but before, uh, those first, I don't even know how many seven episodes I love, and then it slowly starts to tip off. And season two is like, I didn't like season two at all.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Okay. I've, uh, may, I think I'm most of the way through the first episode, or maybe through the first episode. They're in her old bedroom right now. Wherever that is, and it's very disturbing. Um, I, I don't think that the la latter half of it is that bad when they show up. I just got paranoid, irritated with his character
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:Okay.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:and it's like, okay, we've been here, we've done that. Let's move on from the, there's a hotter girl than the girl that wants to sleep with me thing. And it's like, yeah, let's, let's move on from that. Let's, let's just move on.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I agree. I don't think it's that bad. I still enjoy the rest of the season. I enjoy season one, the whole thing. I enjoy season one. It's just like those first couple episodes for me were like gold. I loved the first episodes of these show, and then it just turned down a little bit. It's all
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:that's totally fine. How far did you end up watching into the show?
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:Probably two thirds, three quarters of the way through the season two, and then I stopped it.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:They, it, they go to California and I, it just wasn't that funny to me anymore. And he's like paying for his sins and it's What, whatever.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I don't know. Wasn't that
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Yeah. As of right now, I'm kind of interested as to what happens'cause. Where are they gonna end up? Right? They didn't wanna live in the White House, they didn't wanna live in LeBron James House. They didn't wanna live in Michael Jordan's house. Uh, they're in her childhood home or old home or wherever, and it's very disturbing. So they're not gonna pick their, his brother is in space. Um, not entirely clear on that.'cause when they first showed him in space and. His last name was Miller. I thought to myself, does everybody with the name Paul Miller survive? Is that just, it? Is it just anybody whose name's Paul Miller couldn't get the virus? Um, so that was my first thought. And then at the beginning of season two, he's like, yeah, I have a brother. Or at the end of season one, I don't remember. And I was like, oh. Maybe his brother's in space, which there's no way his brother is still in space. It's been multiple years. He's dead.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:That's what
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:dead.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:too.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:But you know, he's still in space and he's trying to make contact. And what does that mean then whatever, uh, Conlin and I have already kind of started this conversation. Where would you live? Because my initial text to Conland, it was the idea that you're the last surviving person on earth and you chose to live in Arizona is absolutely insane.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:It's
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:And they do actually start to address it towards the end of season one.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:Which I appreciated.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:But commenters, let us know. Where would you pick? Uh, I have kinda led towards, you know, Texas. Solar farms, you'd have plenty of power pumps, actual farms, all those kinds of things. My second choice was, I think, conman's first choice in California. Um, he said he'd set up next to a hydroelectric dam. That's not a bad idea either.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I think that'd be
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Uh, ended with kind of like, Hey, Utah, probably wouldn't be a bad idea. You get all seasons, plenty of farming area, solar, wind, you know, lots of power capabilities too there. But where would you pick? Uh, I, living in Hawaii would not really have much of a choice actually. I would have to live in Hawaii'cause I don't know how to sail. Um, so there's that. But like if I was on mainland, I think. I think I'd still pick Texas. I think that's just a slam dunk.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I don't think Hawaii would be a terrible spot though, honestly.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:I do.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:You do. Why?
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:How would you know you were the last person on earth, right? You'd be like, where the heck did everybody's dead here. My, my internet doesn't work. I still have solar power. Am I actually alone? I think that that question of like, am I actually alone would eat at me more than actually being here? Plus the, like, the humidity you're on a volcano that I don't know how to tell when it's gonna kill me or not. Uh, there's no wildlife, so like a lot of the, like I can't go fishing for food. Right. Another really good thing for Texas,'cause there's no fish. They're amazed that there's a cow. There's no bugs or animals in this world. Everything's dead.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:Oh, that's true.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:I forgot about that part. Oh,
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:So I couldn't like fish. Right. In Texas there's like warehouses and warehouses full of stuff, you
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:That's true.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:know? So, yeah, I think I would if this, the hypothetical virus happened and I. Was was the only surviving person in Hawaii. I think I would have no choice but to very quickly start learning how to sail and try and sail back to the mainland.'cause otherwise it's just a matter of time till I run outta stuff here.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:You just go to a, I don't know, a naval base and you're driving and shut.
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:I'd have to get there.
konlin-gappmayer_2_06-03-2025_174047:That's
josh-dietrich_2_06-03-2025_134050:on Big Island. I would have to sail just to get to a, you know, nuclear powered battleship from Pearl Harbor or something, and then try and figure out how to do it now. I'd probably just sail that, that would be a, a hard thing, but.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I think it would be absolutely hilarious for you to be driving a giant, giant boat, like a huge boat and you just crash into California'cause you don't know how to slow down.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I know how to drive a boat. I, I wouldn't crash into California.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:That
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Don't think I would take a big battleship. I would right in that situation. I would go fire the battleship if I could figure that part out.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:That would be sweet.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:What else would you do? What else would you do? You, you're free, right? The rain to do whatever the freak you want.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I don't even know. Like I said, I think my big, big push would be like, make sure I have food, make sure I have water, make sure I have power. Uh, so like my big inclination was solar, right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:So I would go and try and learn as much about solar as I could so that when the solar panels stop working, I have the knowledge to, to fix it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Cool.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Um, then I would go secure an electric vehicle because the fact that they're driving gas vehicles in this world when
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Is crazy.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:electric and solars. Clearly, obviously the way to get your, your power, uh, in terms of complexity and ease, you know, like, um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah. And gas only stays. Viable in engines. I looked it up when I watched the show. I think it was three years.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:uh, I mean, that's the recommended time and it depends on the kind of fuel. Um, so like diesel's shelf life is technically like three months.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Oh, well
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah. Um, but like premium fuel will last three to five years or whatever, and it will work longer than that. To be clear, it's just less effective. So
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I'm probably
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:you don't really care about your engine because whatever. Yeah. Um, let's see. So solar, learn about solar fire, battleship.'cause that sounds like fun. Uh. Leave Hawaii burning to the ground, essentially head back to the mainland. Um, my next thought was cars on a racetrack. I would try and go to Texas. They have one of my favorite racetracks in the world.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I be
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:The fact that only one person was driving a sports car was wild to me. I was like, no, you would all be driving freaking Ferraris because why the heck not, you know?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:wouldn't you?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah. Um, I sure would,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:The one main girl, she would 100% drive like a Prius or something.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:but yeah, she would drive a Prius and like cowboy guy would drive a pickup truck and the two girls would drive an Escalade because their little ho bags. That makes total sense. Todd driving a sports car and Paul, the main guy, should absolutely be driving a sports guy. That's 100% something he would do.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Absolutely.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:he would find the most expensive sports car that he could. He could drive
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:that
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:absolutely. Yeah, and I would too'cause that sounds awesome. Um, yeah, I'd basically start stockpiling a garage full of stuff. I'd go raid Jay Jay Leno's place and basically steal his entire garage. And then, yeah, cars. Absolutely. Why not?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:That'd be awesome.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:dude, let me go to my topic. Um, one Tree Hill, season six. did, when did you stop watching the show?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I watched the entire show.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Oh, you watched the entire show. Okay,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I like this season like a lot. Um, Jamie is easily one of my favorite kid actors of all time. This kid is freaking just adorable. He makes all the scenes with him highly enjoyable. I really like the kid. uh, Nathan trying to get back into the NBA and the way that he fights. That whole storyline was really compelling, really well done. I love their relationship. I think it's a, one of the, it is the healthiest relationship I can think of in the teen drama easily.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Whose?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:what
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Whose.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Nathan and Hailey,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Oh, okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I like their relationship a lot.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Okay,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:It gives and they have enough time because they had them get married so young for the relationship to actually develop and get better. uh,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:sure.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:That was good.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I'm glad you think so.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I liked their fight. I think the Brooke and Mom debate was of just drama for drama's sake, but it's part of the show, whatever. It's all good. her Brooks relationship with her foster daughter, I thought was really well done. like the foster daughter. I started watching the next season and I'll probably talk about it next week, maybe two weeks from now. But the foster daughter just kind of disappears, which sucks, but I like, I like it in this season. I thought they did a good job with it. Um, I think Marvin's stuff is kind of dumb, all of it. I don't think it's very good. Mar uh, something that I really like about this is US is they have people in different cities. Living different lives, and you can still have the show, a lot of these teen dramas, if you're not in One Tree Hill or you're not in 9 0 2 1 oh or whatever, you graduate high school. And if you don't stay in the same town for some reason, the show doesn't work. And it doesn't have to be That way you can move to different places and keep living your life like you're in Hawaii and. You're the last man on earth. You're gonna figure out how to get a boat and drive to mainland. But you can do that. And if we wrote a story that would work and you could have my life and how I survive here, and those stories can both still work. And a lot of these shows, they don't allow you to do that. And I wish that they would've with Marvin in particular with mouth, um, stuff with skills and the mother-in-law was kind of cringey, didn't really love that. But you have your main characters, you have your brook, you have your Peyton, you have your, Hey Nathan and Hailey and all of them have compelling stories that I enjoyed. I enjoyed the Peyton pregnancy. I enjoyed the, even though you knew she was never gonna die, the risk that she might die. And all of the emotional struggle that went on with that, like, it, it was, it was all, all done. And I enjoyed this season.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Good.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah. Did you like it up to the end?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:No. Okay. Do you remember why you stopped liking it? Do you remember what season?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:The one where Lucas leaves,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay. That's the next season.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:that's this season I think.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:No, Lucas
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Lucas is in the season.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah. It's the next
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Oh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:that he is not there.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:okay. Yeah. Lucas and Peyton both leave and it's very clear that they left because this season really wasn't very good and their characters aren't really,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:If they're not progressing as much as,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:yeah. Uh, like it's very clearly the, uh, Nathan and Haley show at this point. I don't like the Nathan and Haley relationship. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I didn't like it in season two or whatever when Hailey just disappears. But I feel like they get where they communicate really well and they support each other and fight with each other, or fight for each other, is how I should say it. Why don't you like it later on?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:'cause they're never really fully honest with each other and they very clearly hold grudges and don't forgive each other.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I didn't get that in this season,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Nathan never stops bringing up her leaving and cheating.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I don't think she brought, he brought that up at all this season.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:He does every season, every time they fight, he brings it up essentially.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Hmm.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And it's like, I get it, but like you should have left her dude like. Plain and simple. She wasn't loyal. You should have left, you chose to stay. You have no choice but to forgive her. And
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:You don't
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I never feel like, and this is just my memory, but like to my memory, I never felt like to ever actually forgave each other.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And I don't like that. Uh, for me, the best part of this season was Brooke. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:She actually starts developing and becoming a real person and not just the dumb girl, trying to have all the attention.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:she grows up a lot.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And that to me was the best part. Uh, everything to do with Dan. I hated
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:So I was wondering, do you think Dan can come back like. Can he ever be redeemed
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:if it was me in my life. No.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:authentic? Do you think they can do it with the story and have it feel like it's actually somewhat earned
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah, as much as they do anything in this show, sure.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Right. For you, you buy the the, there's the forgiveness there, and that's a good, healthy relationship to look at if you buy that. They could probably do something as good as that,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay. Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:but just. I think that Dan should have died in the fire, plain and simply, that's where it should have ended. And his story since the fire until this point in the story has been, oh, he's being a good guy. Oh. But we need a villain. So we're gonna recycle Dan as the villain. Oh, okay. We're gonna, we're gonna actually make him good and we're gonna introduce this new villain. Oh, it's not working. Fans don't like it. Okay. Dan's the villain again,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Stantonville is again, and it's stupid.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:and it, it's built this character to be one who's never genuinely good. So do you believe he could become genuinely good? I mean, I can't answer that question, but for me, no. Absolutely not. Like I don't buy his redemption at any point in time.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay. Okay. I know that they keep trying it, but it feels like that is an area where they're dragging it out a decent amount. Like too much?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah, they're trying to use Nathan's kid as the bridge between the two,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:and to me, that tells the story that kids are responsible for fixing the adult problems. So I don't really like that aspect of it either. And like I said, because they've turned Dan into this terrible, horrible father figure, I just don't believe he would ever, ever be genuine with anything. He's a guy. He's in search for a means to an end, and nothing's gonna change that
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Fair enough. Fair enough. Do you regret watching to the end of the show?
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:now.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:No. Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:No, but it's not like. This is us, where the beginning is so good and so well written that when they get to this point, it feels like a betrayal. Right? I never had the Randall moment where I was like, oh my gosh, we've moved on. We, he doesn't need to learn this lesson again. We've been here, we've done that, right?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:is like from the beginning, very clearly a teen drama.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:absolutely. The
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And so when they do teen drama things and keep doing it again, it's like, yeah, I've been there, done that. It's not as effective the fifth time that you do it, but it's also like, okay,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:It's teen drama.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:it's a teen drama.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:of
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:You know, I never absolutely loved this show the way I loved the season. One of this is us. I never really got to the point where I hated or was really disappointed in the show.'cause it's, like I said, it's very easy to be like, oh, it's a teen drama. It, it's got good stuff and it's got bad stuff and it's got good stuff and it's got bad stuff in every single season.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Right? Like to my memory, season one Brook is absolutely a scumbag person. That might be season two. I don't really remember exactly when.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:both. Those two seasons kind of blend into
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah. She's just like this terrible friend who's being a homewrecker for attention.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yep.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And then season three, they're like, yeah, but her parents' situation is this. And you're like, okay. I kind of feel empathy for her. And they start telling her story a little bit more. You're like, okay. And then they get to the point where there's the stalker killer guy, and you're like, okay, this is entirely different show for this part of it, like. Okay. And then they move on from it. And yeah, there's no real like long-term effects from it. So you go, that's not really real, but okay. And then they bring him back and you're like, oh my gosh, seriously. But this time they kill him. And you're like, okay, well at least we don't have to deal with that anymore. And it's like, it's got up and down it like, like I said, beginning, I hated Brooke. She's just a scumbag human. Season six, Brooke. She's the best part of the show.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah, she develops a
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:So
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:develop, she's the one that develops the most of the show by far.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:yeah, so I mean, it's a teen drama. It's never really great because there's always things kind of dragging it down and you know, it, it's kind of just what it is, you know? Will I go back and rewatch one Tree Hill? I doubt it. Would I mind it if somebody wanted to watch it or it was on No, I, I, I'd be fine watching it. This is a lot better than a lot of other teen dramas and
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:It is the most consistently good my opinion.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:yeah, it's, it's never scummy or gross either, so that, that helps me be able to re-watch it too.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah. All right. With that, let's go to our shared topic and I, neither of us have notes and I'm very interested in what you thought about this movie.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Well, the reason I don't have any notes is because. Three and a half hours ago, I realized, oh yeah, this is a shared topic and that I need to watch this. So I turned it on. It's a three hour movie and in order to get it done in time, I finished 20 minutes before we started recording by turning it on 1.5 speed.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:That's why I don't have any notes is'cause I had literally just watched it. Uh, it's a three hour movie. It feels like a three hour movie. It is long. And why is it long? Well, there's a lot of character pauses that honestly, I didn't realize because I was watching at 1.5 speed and then I went back and thought to myself and I was like, are people actually watching this movie at regular speed? That must be excruciating to get through. Because most of the movie you honestly probably wouldn't notice. I didn't notice until, or I wasn't reminded until Tom Cruise was panting. And like anytime Tom Cruise is on speed, it's very apparent that it's at 1.5 speed. Any other time you could watch it and not even notice, and it's like, wow, there's a lot of pausing, a lot of breathing, a lot of. I'm gonna smoke, but not smoke. Like that exact thing happens like 10 times in this movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:absolutely it does.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And like, uh, I, I'm assuming you watched it irregular speed.'cause why wouldn't you?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Nope.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Oh, you did.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I literally did the exact same thing you did. I was, I watched, um, an hour of it last night. Really? Did not like the first hour of this movie, like at all. Um, fell asleep, had to start it today, and I was like, shoot, I just don't have enough time. So I watched it on 1.5 so that I could get through the last two hours also.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Okay. Uh, yeah. Uh, my thoughts are if you're going to watch this movie, turn it up to 1.5 or maybe even two x speed. Tom Cruise becomes really, really funny because he is moving that fast and the rest of the show is bearable. Um. The reason we picked this show is it's a top three Tom Cruise movie of all time. We, we talked about Mission Impossible last time. It sparked this conversation with a lot of people. It's on a lot of people's list. I don't think that this is my favorite Tom Cruise performance. It's also not my least favorite Tom Cruise performance, so I'll give him that. Uh, I don't think anything will ever top tropic thunder, but you know, there's that, uh, I feel like I probably missed out on some of the weight of this movie because I was watching it at 1.5 Speed. Um. I, I like all the characters. I think the performances are all really good. I was surprised that what his bucket did such a good job playing the cop actually.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:He
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Um,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:favorite part of the movie. Easy.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:uh, yeah, him and the girl's relationship, um, was mine. Um, and how they interacted with each other and the fact that she like, was so conflicted. Like that was all really, really good. I was expecting more of a silly aspect from him since he normally plays like Bob from Monsters versus Aliens. So I wasn't expecting this like serious cop guy and for him to do play that serious cop guy so well
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:and he did, he absolutely nailed it, knocked it out of the park. Um. My review is there's probably like an hour and a half of this movie that's like a nine out of 10. There's also probably an hour and a half of this movie that's like a 5.5 out 10.'cause some of the relationships are really cool and interesting and you know, perspective and like, I liked the nurse guy thing, Tom Cruise thing. They'll. Towards the end, the nurse guy was like crying and stuff because of Tom Cruise. And I was like, maybe it's'cause I'm watching at 1.5 speed. And he's sitting there like, but like, I was like, that didn't feel like an emotional heavy moment. It felt like a terrible dad and a terrible sod sod coming together. Uh, they made, what's his bucket? Um, have a. Uh, cop girl's. Um, dad revealed that he was a molester and that was like, oh, I don't know. What did you think?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:So actually Chiney, I, I misspoke. My favorite parts are the old man and just him like reflecting on his life. I really. I actually enjoyed those parts a
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:and I will remember those parts. Those parts were impactful to me. The cop's journey I thought was extremely well done, but will it really impact me moving forward? Probably not the old man really just being sad about a lot of places that he is gone. A lot of the things that he is done was extremely well done. It was extremely well written and it was extremely well acted, and I really, really appreciated that. I thought that the nurse guy was crying just because this gentleman was dead, that he was taken care of. That's what, that's why I thought he was crying, but maybe I took that wrong. I don't know. Um,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:very much like he felt bad at watching Tom Cruise breakdown.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:and that maybe that's what they meant by it. If they, if that's what they meant by it. I don't like that as much as him just being sad because this old man who. He's seen struggle and he's taken care of is gone.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I don't think it's that way at all because he is very much taking advantage of the old man. But go ahead.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Anyway. Um, Tom Cruise in, this was too much. Like I've seen a decent amount of Andrew Tate type stuff, which he's trying to play one of those kind of characters. the Andrew Tate type characters are overblown. They do per do a persona, but this felt like. What Tom Cruise would act like in Scientology when he's speaking to the people about Scientology, but it was about men's rights and how to have sex with a bunch of women, and it was just, was too much and kind of over blew the, which I don't know if that's the writing or the way that he acted. It kind of over blew that whole part of the story. The sister. storyline is completely useless. Like you could cut the entire thing out and I think it would be a better movie. I thought her storyline was dumb. The redhead, um, she acts fine in it, but the entire thing is a complete waste of time. spelling bee kid was, was fine. Um, the older, I think the older person who lost his job because he has. He's gay and he wanted to get braces because then some guy would love him. I was like, guess this works for some people, but I'm, that's just not, I'm not the target audience for this at all, and I don't care. Um, so you're left with the old man and the cop stuff, and that's basically what I liked from this movie were those two segments the frog thing. Because that it was not on my bingo cart at all for this movie, and
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I hated that part.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:it doesn't match the rest of the movie at all in any way, shape or form. And it comes outta nowhere. But just the fact that Mr. Complaining guy who's complaining about braces the entire time gets hit in the mouth with a frock and looses all his teeth, I thought was hilarious. Um. There are parts of this movie that are really good. There are parts of this movie where I'm just like, this isn't really my thing and I don't really connect with this at all. So I can understand why people like the movie as much as they do. I don't blame anybody. It's not like I can't understand why anyone would enjoy this movie, but did I enjoy this movie? No. No, I did not. Is it a movie I will ever watch again? Absolutely not. If somebody wanted to a ask me to watch this movie again. I would tell them, no, I am not watching this movie. I didn't like it very much.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:That's fair. Totally understandable.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:there with you. I went, I do disagree with you about the redhead. Um, she's not his daughter, she's his husband or his wife.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:This is his wife. Okay. I thought it was
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:She has the thing with the lawyer where she says, take me out of it. I didn't marry him
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Oh, yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:morally. I wanted his money, but I actually love him now kind of moment. I actually really liked her character. Uh, a very sad reality of suicide in, in that too. Uh, this movie feels like it's a, we're gonna tell a bunch of really, really sad stories. Right. So we're gonna have an old man with dementia trying to talk about his life. You really, it was really impactful to you. It wasn't really to me. Um, but I credit to that, the quality of the writing,
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:he was dementia. So like he was trying and it was really heartbreaking and really sad. But he was a little bit mentally messed up, so he was not really smoking. Smoking. And. Talking gibberish a lot of the time, so that wasn't like an impactful thing for me. Uh, but I do credit that like the writing was excellent for him. It, it just didn't hit
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:were able to bring all the characters together. Was like, that's not a super easy thing to do, and they made that
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:well. It's really easy when you make frogs fly out of the sky and. The cop sees the one guy robbing the place, getting hit in the face with a frog. And you know, like the mom coming to the daughter after finding out that she was molested and frogs start flying out of the sky, so she's freaking out scared. And all those things like, you know.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Ultimate McGovern.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:It is a McGuffin that makes it work and like, yeah, that's fine. Um, so yeah, I, Tom Cruise felt very silly to me. I don't think he was overblown or overdid it. I do also give a little leniency because I was watching him 1.5 speed. Like I feel like he would be a lot less ridiculous if. His crying wasn't so exaggerated at 1.5 speed. Um, I'm sure it was a lot more real feeling than the way that I saw it happen. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:But I mean, I watched probably an hour and I was more than that. It was like 80 minutes, 80 minutes at normal speed, something like that. So I was almost halfway through the movie. and so I saw Slow Tom Cruise and it still felt overblown to me. Even in
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:like he's barely in it at the beginning.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:he is got a whole segment where he is in it, where he is talking on stage to all these guys about
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Yeah, but that's it. You don't see him do the panting thing that I was talking about. You don't see him crying.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:That's true.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Right? Like literally when I watched him cry, like he's a, he is a grown adult crying, but to me it looks like, like he's vibrating
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Because you're growing so fast.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:I'm watching him. 1.5 speed. That's what I'm talking about, right? He does the thing where he, uh, breeze like a dog in front of the reporter's face. I watched that at 1.5 speed.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Wow.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Right. So that's, that's going to more sify, make it more silly than it was intended to be. Right.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And yeah, maybe it's still over the top. My, my comment is simply like, I can't make that statement because. I have to give credit to the fact that I was trying to rush to watch this movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Um, so what would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:A four.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:There were aspects of it that I found value in, but there's a lot of this movie that I thought was for me and utter waste of time.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Fair enough. I would give it a three for the same reasons.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Uh. Tom Cruise performances, would you give it a top 10 Tom Cruise performance?
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:absolutely not. But he is very different in this movie and I could see why maybe some people really liked it. It is very different in performance and he does a good enough job with a script that, with a. Performance that I feel like was written to be too exaggerated, if that makes sense.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Okay, fair enough. I feel like it's his character from Tropic Thunder. Again, I don't feel like it's that different of a character than something he's done.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Um, although I think Tropic Thunder came after, I don't know
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I don't know either.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:either way. Um, I wouldn't give it a top 10 to Tom Cruise movie either. I feel like for certain people this movie's gonna hit and it's gonna be the kind of movie that you're like, I just cried through the entire thing. It was so sad.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:I agree.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:And like for those people, hats off to you. I totally get it. I can absolutely see that. Um, in terms of like performances, I think everybody does a good job. I think the writing is good enough or exceptional at areas. It just didn't hit for me. And the rest of the time I was bored and like. It's three hours. Legitimately. I'm not exaggerating. It's three hours.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:and it not be a three hour movie.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:No, it definitely shouldn't. I honestly feel like they could probably cut out 30 minutes of somebody breathing and or smoking.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:Yeah, yeah,
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Like we really don't need 30 minutes of watching somebody breathe. But I'm sure that for the people that this movie really hits for, it adds to it. But
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:And like I said, I can, I can understand some people liking this movie. I just didn't. I
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:that's fair.
konlin-gappmayer_3_06-03-2025_175420:didn't like this movie. But with that, guys, that is our episode. We appreciate you watching, like, subscribe, all that good stuff. We'll see you next time. Bye.
josh-dietrich_3_06-03-2025_135424:Peace.
