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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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Spaceballs
Spaceballs
8 Simple Rules, MI Final Reckoning, Funny Farm, Georgie & Mandies First Marriage, Last of US 1 & 2
00:00 - 8 Simple Rules
14:14 - Final Reckoning
27:36 - Funny Farm
33:30 - Georgie & Mandies First Marriage
57:00 - Last of Us
01:24:41 - SpaceBalls
Hey guys, it's onscreen, offscreen back with another week. We watch movies, read books, play games, and we look for things that are going to influence our lives and make our lives a little bit better. And hopefully it'll, it'll raise yours up. Also, Josh, we actually have double shared topics this week. Let's, uh, start with your thoughts on eight simple rules.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Oh, okay. So the, the full show title is eight Simple Roles for Dating My Daughter. Um, I watched a video that was about how it was like 10 shows that had to completely change directions in the middle unexpectedly. Um, and I was reminded of the show. This was a show I kind of sorta watched when I was growing up. It was often on. When I was like eating breakfast or whatever, or got home from school and my sister wasn't watching Ellen, this was one of the shows that, that was frequently on. So I decided, oh, you know what? Let's, let's, let's look at that again. Let's, let's really see, last week we talked about the middle and how you connect with shows because you can draw a certain relation to it. Um. This one I think works for me in the exact opposite direction. Um, I think it works for me because it's something that I wanted to connect with but didn't actually have in real life. Um, so the show follows. It's a family, dysfunctional family. Mom, dad, two girls, then a boy. Uh, they're always fighting about stupid stuff. You have the oldest. Sister, who's the hot one, quote unquote, who plays Penny in Big Bang Theory, and she's all about partying and people and all this kinds of stuff. And then you have the middle child, the forgotten one, who's, you know, always begging for attention and never really gets it. And then you have the youngest who's also the only boy, so he's like the favorite child, and they actually do represent that really well. Uh, one of the running gags that they do in it is with that middle child being the forgotten child, is they'll, they'll be like, I'm listening to you, I'm paying attention to you, but stop.'cause I gotta deal with this other kid who's being a bigger pain. Uh, and then, you know, uh, my knock against it is at the beginning of the show, the youngest boy does some really creepy stuff. Like way over the top, like he's hiding in his sister's closet and pops out. And like the running gag is that he's a toddler. And I'm like, that doesn't really bother me. He's supposed to be like 11. Not a big deal. But then he'll like climbs out from under his sister's beds and like they, that's the running joke and that they have to kick him out of their room all the time. And I'm like, no. That's very disturbing. Looking at that with adult eyes, what he is doing in there is not good and, uh, very concerning, but that's my only really knock against it. Uh, and they move on from it fairly quickly. Uh, the change that they had to go through was, that was the original structure that they wanted for the show is. A dad who gives up being a sports writer to spend more time at home getting to build his relationship with his teenage kids. But then like four or five episodes into season two, the actor actually died. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:The dad actor
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:yeah, the dad actor died, and so they had to. It, it changed from that kind of original structure to, okay, well now we have to deal with a single mom who lost her husband dealing with teenage kids. Her dad moves in with'em and, you know, it changes the dynamic. Um, and the way that they actually handled that transition in the show, I think they did amazingly. And like they could have just recast the actor. They could have just said, this is the new dad now. And they did do it. They took it in stride and I, I was very impressed with that.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Me too. I, uh, loved the show When I was younger. I watched it over and over again. It was it. And how I met your mother were the shows that I would watch the most. Actually, watch this all the time, and when they change it and the dad dies, I am one of the few people that like it better. Um, I think the cousin actually works really well on the show, and I love the grandpa. So they have the grandpa, he is kind of a father figure still, but he is a grandpa. Like they write him as a grandpa. So he is not quite the same. And they do a great job of writing that grandpa character. Uh, and I
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:When they find their groove.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:when they find their groove. Yes. When they find their
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:'cause there's the short period, I think there's like. In my mind, there's like five episodes
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Hm.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:where he's like there for the funeral and he's loving grandpa and whatever. And then there's the Thanksgiving episode where he's like, this isn't my problem. And like doesn't do anything. And then there's the YMCA episode where he's like, well, now I have to protect Bridget. And he gets in fights and stuff and it's really stupid. And then he kinda like. The cousin comes in and I think it's the nice balancing act for, for that stuff, but yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:I agree. But they figure it out and they, a good job with it. My favorite episode is the one where he's, uh, the grandpa's there and it's Halloween and he just wants to watch The Great Escape, but these kids keep coming to the door and he is like, what the, just get out my front porch. And he is got this full old man energy and I think it is hilarious. I love that episode. Um, the sisters are both really charming. I actually,'cause, so the mom from this show ends up being Penny's mom in, uh. Big Bang Theory and I thought it would've been cool if they actually had this be her family. And this was actually her backstory. They didn't quite go that angle when I saw the same mom. I was hoping. anyway, the, the sister dynamic's really good. The brother feels really authentic. It's just a really enjoyable show. It's just really enjoyable.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Yeah, I, I think you're dead on. I think it does get better after, um, I don't necessarily think it's'cause the dad is missing. I do think that it's just that first season they were still trying to figure out the show. If that makes any sense. So like, it really bothered me in season one when the younger sister suddenly became popular and it's like, no. Um, and then there's the boyfriend Kyle. And side note, I was wondering why is it always Kyle who gets the sisters? Because in last man standing, the guy's name is Kyle and he dates both of the sisters. Um, but like in when he meets Carrie, he's like. Genuinely smart. And they have this connection because he actually likes to read. And he's not just some ditzy jock
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:who's dating the older sister. And I was like, that's a really cool dynamic. But that's in it for one episode. And then when he shows up again, he's just ditzy jock and they, the running gag is that he just doesn't know how to read and whatever. And I wish they would've just.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:would've been interesting.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Yeah, made him actually like, okay, so this is why he works better for the younger sister and not the older sister. But, um, yeah, it's a good show.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:So how long is like season wise is this show, and when is it that it starts that they hit their groove?
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Um, it's three seasons and I think the third season is the best season. But if you look at reviews, a lot of people don't like the cousin and the grandpa, like they wish the dad had stayed. I think the dad is sometimes too much of the dorky dad stereotype, and it isn't quite as good in my opinion, the cousin, it becomes the dorky person. Then you have the grandpa who's kind of the father figure, and they play off each other extremely well. So I think you have this third season where you have all the characters you've developed. They really feel like a family. Um, you have a lot of different dynamics going on, and it, it works really well. What, what do you think, Josh?
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Um, so there are 24 episodes in each season. There are three seasons. The dad dies at the beginning of season two.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Uh, I actually don't think that there is a best season,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Okay.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:uh, because to me they're very different kind of shows and I think that's why people were frustrated with it is'cause like, yeah, he's the dorky dad, but he's a relatable, dorky dad. Uh. He, he just cares about his kids. Um, and his kids just throw tantrums and that kind of stuff, and people fell in love with that. And then season two is that transition time where they're trying to figure out, you know, I. The mom's always like, well, how do I do this if I, if they don't have their dad? Um, and that kind of stuff. And then season three, they have that dynamic that you just mentioned where the cousin gets to be the dokey person and the grandpa gets to be the authoritarian father figure, um, that they get to seek advice for because of experience and that kind of stuff. Um, so like for me, the only like. A bad part of the show is like, I think the funeral episode with the father is pretty good. The only thing that bothered me is they never outright stated that the dad died. Uh, the, the mom gets a call and rushes out of the, the room at the end of the previous episode, and the next episode is his funeral. They never say. Your dad died, right? Like I was expecting a scene where the mom is announcing to the kids the news that she got, but they didn't do it. Uh, that's not like a bad thing. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:not as impactful.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:it's not quite as impactful. And I get that. It's a really tricky scene, but like, what I would've done is what MASH did, um, with Henry where they just. Have one actor be in the know and go tell the other actors and you record their genuine responses based off of the actual news that had happened.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Or how I met your mother.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Yeah. Um,'cause like the guy actually did die. They were all actually very close with him. You would've gotten a very impactful scene. Just having the mom deliver that news to the kids who didn't know what they were filming. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:You would've.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:but all that being said, like I said, I, I just see each season has its own strengths, um, and its own weaknesses. It's not the best show ever. Uh. I think that if you were to look at it analytically and critically, I think Malcolm in the middle and the middle are both technically better shows.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:I would agree.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Um, this one just works for me where the other two don't. I.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:This one has a lot of nostalgia for me.'cause I did, I really liked this show. In fact, I watched, I started watching How I Met Your Mother because of, uh, what's her name, the one who plays Benny
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:How am I? She's not in, how am I there?
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:not How
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Big Bang.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory. Kaylee Lucco, Lucco. odd.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Anyway, show. Um, if you run out things to watch Lauren, it's something that's a good, like kind of show. It's fun. I,
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. With the name, like the title of the show, I thought you guys were gonna start talking about an anime, but uh, yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Something else I really like about the show is your opening crawl, like your opening sequence. the little, the brother changes what he does as like a prank every single episode, and it just adds a little bit of variety to the show. It's a, it's a good little ad
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Well, sort of
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:in most episodes. He changes what he is do what he ends with. What he
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:they, yeah, they reuse after like 12 episodes.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Okay.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:They start cycling through it. It's not completely unique. Everyone, except for the holiday episodes are unique every time.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Cool.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:But like he, he, he pulls his pants down to moon him like 20 times in season one. Like, like they, they start going like, okay, we really don't need that many. We can just cycle through a selection of like 12. Um, but anyway.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Cool. With that, let's go to Lauren's topic. What do you got?
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Okay, so I went to, I've been going to the movie theaters a lot recently. I didn't usually go to the movie theaters, but I went with my mom and my grandpa to go see, uh, the final mission Impossible, the final reckoning, reckoning. Uh, which is really funny. I think I counted like five times in the movie them saying this is the final recording. That's just like, like normally you hear like the name of a movie once or like the title of a book once in the thing. You're like, oh, there it is. Uh, but I almost like started looking over at my mom every single time they said it and, um. But I thought it was, uh, interesting'cause they had a lot of clips of the other mission impossibles in this, so this was, felt very much like, uh, for, uh, Tom Cruise and like it would show, it referenced a lot of the other movies, which. I haven't seen all of them, so I, I
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Yes, you have.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:have I?
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Because if you've seen one of them, you've seen all of them because they're all the exact same.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:It is true.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:There's different parts of it that are awesome, but Josh has some point.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. I hadn't watched the first one, which I think is integral to the final reckoning because it has a lot of plot that deals with what happened in the first one. Um, but you don't have to watch the first one to actually, uh, understand because they basically show you all the parts that you need to know in the final reckoning. Um, it was funny though when there was like the beginning and he's explaining why the world needs Ethan Hunt and everything like this that was showing clips of all the movies and all the people he has lost and who have died. And my mom turns to me and she's like. Did you notice how all the people that died were women? I was like, yeah, I don't think I saw any guys in that clip of, it was like all these different faces of women dying. I was like, well, it got ruined for, spoiled for if I wanna go back. But, uh, it's like, it was, it was okay. It, it was a good show to be like a. to Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible? Uh, I don't think it was like wowing or the best, uh, of this type of movie. Uh, but I had fun watching it with my grandpa because he loved all the other Mission Impossible movies. And so like, afterwards was like, how did you like it? And he's like, I like the planes. And he would like start explaining about like the planes that they were using and stuff, and, They had oh, what is it? Um, submarine that,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Yeah.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:sorry, I thought something out my door. they have a submarine part that it's so funny'cause it's just all of these tactics that they use for suspense that they've probably used and reused over all of the movies. Yet I was still like white knuckled in the,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:The submarine part is insane.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:what a good set piece. It's awesome.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:It was really cool. I just laughed because when he like goes in and he shuts the door, it like dislodges the submarine and I'm like, are you saying that Tom Cruise is fat? It's just him like shutting a door and oh, submarine's turning again. And I'm
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:I literally had the exact same thought. I was like, just that made the entire thing fall off a cliff.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah, but also you have to remember that he did bring water into the submarine, so that did offset it a little bit, but I still don't think to that extent.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:don't either. It's like smashed into the ground and, and shutting the door and made the entire thing start to spin.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. Yeah. And it was just so funny'cause every time I looked over at my, my mom, she had the same facial expressions I had. So there's the, uh, moment where he does get out of a torpedo, um, exit of the Mach, submarine. And he is, I'm, I think he was like the, with a suit too bulky for him to get into the. Torpedo thing? Or why did he rip off his clothes?
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:it was the backpack that was like, uh, keeping him oxygenated so that his, the pressure on his blood wouldn't cause an actual eternal damage. So it was, it was helping with that aspect and it was too big, so I couldn't get through the, through
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:torpedo. Shoot
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:guess I just, like, wasn't registering to me. I just thought, I was like, dude, just go into the, the. Go into the tunnel and then he just rips his clothes off. And I like turned to my mom, she turned to me like, what is he doing? And they get out and of course then something snags the air that he was breathing. And so we ripped that off and we both threw our hands up at the exact same time.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Yep. That's the worst part of the movie. When I did my review with Josh, I was like that. Every other time I've been, uh, what he does in the movies is like, that's crazy. But I could kind of see somebody maybe doing that. Maybe
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Mm-hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:the one time where I'm like, Nope, he's dead. Ethan Hunt is dead.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:super, super dead.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. And then, um, it's so funny'cause I've listened to way too many diving stories to know that like. The decompression for, depending on how deep you go, it can take weeks once if you go up into the decompression chamber. And so when they're like, oh yeah, I've been in here for a couple hours, let's go. It's like, oh, okay. Uh, but.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:And the idea that he floated up perfectly so that they could find him. I was like, bullshit.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:My, my mom was like, how did he float? I was like, what do you mean? She's like, he is just muscle. How did he float? I was like, maybe it was really salty. I don't know. He had a lot of air, but it was, um, yeah, it was fun to like watch with my mom and my grandpa and then afterwards we went to dinner and just like talked about it, but. Yeah, I, I don't think it's a movie I'll go back and watch, but I think it's a movie that I'll think about a lot just because I was able to like, share it with my mom and my grandpa.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:So, yeah. Yeah. I, I have to, I. When I was talking about it last time, I was trying to figure out if it was my second to least favorite or my least favorite. The second mission possible is really not very good. So I, I don't know. I don't know.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:I disagree with that.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:yeah, I don't, I don't think the second one's very good. Um, I,
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:It's just a different kind of show. I acknowledge it's not really mission impossible,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:yeah.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:but that doesn't inherently make it bad.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:I know my topics are gonna be, it's gonna be all the mission I.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:You should do it. I really want to know what you think about the second one. I don't. It's not, it's not very good. I don't think it's very good. Um, but I haven't watched it in a long time. I haven't watched the second one in a long time. This one just has a lot of issues, a lot of little problems, and I don't know about you, but for me, the ending was not very satisfying.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:I, I didn't have a problem with the ending. Uh, I thought that the, the plane sequence when they're fighting on the planes took a little bit too long.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Oh, I thought that was amazing.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:I, I love the stunts, but for like.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:up. Incredible.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Everything. Um, I also laughed a couple of times during that scene. Like I actually really like those scenes. I just think that it was too long for,'cause I felt like they were just dragging out that suspense for
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Too long.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:there un were dissembling a bomb. They were trying to catch the AI and he was trying to get into a plane all at the same time.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:it was too much. They didn't need to do the bomb thing at all. Like if they would've gotten rid of the bomb, you had enough going on that it just, it, it kind of over block over, weighs it down.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Mm-hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Yeah. then the plane scene is like 20 minutes. I don't care'cause it's freaking awesome. But it is like 20 minutes. It's, it's pretty long.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Uh, I didn't mind. Yeah. I didn't mind the end that I thought someone was gonna die. But I'm actually kind of glad that they didn't kill somebody since they already killed another main character. but I thought that's how they were gonna end. It was they were gonna kill Tom Cruise to be like, that's it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:That's kind of what I thought would happen too. I think it. We've kind of gone into spoilers. I usually avoid ones that
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Oh yeah, sorry.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:giant spoiler alert, warning, should have done that a while ago.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yep.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Um, I think this movie would've been significantly better if at the very beginning the AI sets off a nuke because the entire time you don't really have a, have a and the villain that they established in the movie beforehand. Um. I, I don't know anything about. So the entire movie, I'm kinda like, I don't care about you. The AI is like this supposed bad guy, but you don't get a lot of pressure from it'cause nothing's actually happened
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:would've released one nuke somewhere. So you actually have some pressure That would've been better if you realized why the AI even wants to set off nukes in the first place. Because I honestly don't know, like, so it can bomb everybody and not have more internet access. Okay. I guess, um, you just don't have a really good villain aspect to the story, and then there's parts of it where you're like, I don't believe that. I don't think that would work. I don't think you could trick the SI to not make a copy of itself and put all of itself into this one drive that you have to grab. I don't buy it. And it just, there's, there's a lot of aspects of this one that are not, not as good.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:yeah.'cause the, the first half. There is a huge AI presence, and I was actually freaked out with the first half where like you're talking to somebody and it mimicked that person and was feeding them wrong intel and things like that, and it was mixing information. I thought that was way more scary than like, I mean, nukes are scary, but like you said, there was nothing really in between. Here's the threat at the very beginning and then. There was no presence of the AI except for the one time when he talked to it and that was it. Um, whereas in the first one it was everywhere, and then now it, it wasn't really a presence. So you're right. I think that's what, yeah. Yeah. I think that's,'cause that's what I was thinking with that is that there, there wasn't really the villain. It switched kind of to, I can't remember the character's name, but. Where they were more, more focused on him. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:not su like, he's just not a very good villain. He's just not,
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. So yeah, make sure to put in big, bold letters in the caption spoilers.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:spoilers, but. It still an enjoyable time. I still had a good time with it, but
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:it is definitely not their best movie.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:Yeah. Not mad. I watched it. Probably won't watch it again, but happy I. I be, I went with my mom and my grandpa. So,
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Cool, cool, cool.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:So what would you rate on a scale of one to 10?
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:uh, I would say movie purposes six. Uh, if you wanna see like the stunts and stuff. Eight I,
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:The sensors are super cool.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:yeah. Oh,
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Would, would you recommend people watch this one or,
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:I would say if they like Mission Impossible, they should watch it.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:okay.
lauren_1_07-02-2025_164450:but I, I'm not gonna be texting Ellie like, oh my gosh, go watch it. Because that's not like a movie that I think she would be into. And I think it's something that you'd have to be into or have something to connect to it wanna watch.
josh-dietrich_1_07-02-2025_124452:Fair enough. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_07-02-2025_164449:Cool.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:And he has, she's dying in his arms and he's like telling her it's gonna be like, okay and everything. I remember watching the behind the scenes of that where, oh, I can't remember the actor's name. he does a lot as well, and this is really, really good. But he, he was like, yeah, I remember like. Going all out and just like screaming and stuff. And then the director took me aside and he's like, no, I want you to do it a little bit. Like calm more, calm down of like a, my life's ripping apart. Um,'cause he was like saying, he was like screaming and shouting the other takes. And then they did this take and everybody was like dead silent and crying on set. And I was like, it made me cry. And I'm like, I've only been watching. Five minutes of this and it's got it. I'm already hooked. I already like, feel for this character. Um, and yeah, just phenomenal voice acting, phenomenal directing, phenomenal writing and the music. I use my music for the music for like d and d campaigns and stuff for in the background'cause it's,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:cool.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:oh, it's so good.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Music's incredible. And I talked about the pacing of that one scene, but the pacing of the whole game is really good. Like I'd a, it's a really good amount of time, in my opinion. The game doesn't feel bloated. It felt like each had a meaningful purpose. Um, Josh, you kind of shook your head. What do you think?
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Uh, I think that there's a couple of exceptions to that. I think in general, you're exactly right, but it jumps to my mind. There's the beginning, which is exceptional, and then you go through this part, and when you first get into the city, when you're dealing with the mechanic. And it does get very video gamey like, okay, you have to go get to the key from this door. That's way out of the way. Why is it way over there? There's no reason just to make you go somewhere else. And then they do it like three more times in that sequence and it's like, okay, I.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Phil's video game. Me.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Let's not do this anymore. Like I very vividly remember getting to a point where I was like, I'm so into this story. Please let me progress. Let me please let me move on from this. And there was another like Go Fetch Quest. And I was like, oh my gosh.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Like,
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:was
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:let me
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:like, oh gosh. With the exception of that one part. Everything is exceptional like you're saying, but like I do have that memory of specifically that one little bit where I was like,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:come
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:this is just ridiculous. This is just building it up to where the mechanic is gonna be killed or eaten or captured and like, oh no, the mechanic was killed. Or you, or captured. Oh no, I'm gonna see that coming.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:No
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Like other than that very one specific section of the game, I agree with you completely.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Fair enough. Fair enough.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Yeah. I watched this, like I said, just the cut scenes, which was a 10 hour movie and I was hooked the whole 10 hours. So.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Well, I could not ask you to play this game more. Uh, this is just my personal experience, but having the actual act of controlling the character immerses me in it. Just that little bit extra that movies and shows can't do.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Yeah, the, I think the TV show is actually done pretty well, to be honest, it's not the perfection of the game, and because you aren't playing the characters, you don't have as much of a connection, though I do think they do a good job with it. In my honest opinion, I wish the show didn't exist. Not because it's bad, but because when you're playing the game, there's more of an impact because everything is perfection that I think the show can't do, and I don't think you would have as much impact from the game. If you know what the story is like, if you know how it ends the game, I don't, I don't think it would be as
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I, I understand that point of view, but I do like that the show exists because then I have my friends who aren't gamers and all those people who won't ever play the game, they watch the movie because they don't wanna watch a 10 hour cut scene. And so having it be put in that makes it so that there's more people who are exposed to it. But like you said, it's not gonna have the same impact. But at least like I can talk to my friend Ellie about, some of those parts. I'm like, oh, this is what I really liked about this, this part and this, and I guess I'll try playing the game now that you guys have been putting it that way.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Have you,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:have you seen the show,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I have seen this show. I love Petro Pascal.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:which. One is better, like watching the cut scenes or watching the
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:scenes,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:the cut scenes would be better. Yeah.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:cut scenes are better. I still think that
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:to watch the cut scenes.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I have, but no, nobody wants to watch 10 hours of cut scenes, but me.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Uh,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:but I like it does get, um, get more people to know about the story. Uh, which I think is cool.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:cool. That's cool. Okay. Any, what Does everybody rate the first game?
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Nine.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:out of 10.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:It's probably a 9.5, somewhere like that, but
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I only said nine because it has so.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:fair enough.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:I only didn't give it a 10'cause there is one. Criticism I have of it, and it's just that one section of the game, but like,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:it a 10'cause I'm a douche bag and I don't give things 10.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:except you already have, you've already broken the rule.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:but I shouldn't have broken. I should have given that an 11 so that we could not
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:So you could say no.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:No tense. All right, let's go to game number two. I have thought about this game a lot. Like a lot, a lot. And when it first came out there were a lot of people raging and I was absolutely one of them. I have pre-ordered two games in my life, the second Spider-Man game and this game. Um, and I was extremely disappointed with it, and I think a lot of people are angry for the wrong reasons. I think this could have been much, much better than it was in the second game. You are introduced and Joel immediately dies. Pretty much everyone knows about that. It's been in the show now. Like people talk about it, they know what's going on. don't think that that's a bad thing, and that's what most people get mad at, with the, with the show and with the, with the game is this aspect. I've had two brothers pass away and you can have people die just like that and then all of, suddenly they're gone. is very much a human experience, and I'm not even living in a post apocalyptic world. But you have Joel die very brutally, very instantly, and then they want you to play as Abby. And I think that that is the problem. It's the, and then you play as Abby. If they would've restructured the game and maybe done like a, a DLC, but this is a middle game that's a little bit smaller where you are playing as Abby during this middle game and it's like eight hours long and you tell Abby's growing up story it ends the same way that the first game ends. But Abby happens to be at the facility in this this version of the story, Abby Abby's monster is Joel. Joel is the monster. She's sitting at the facility and all of, suddenly there's this guy that has come in and he is killing everybody, all of her friends. You could have her in a position where, you know what? She's been struggling and they've been fighting in this post-apocalyptic world, and finally she's safe, and you finally feel comfortable and you, as somebody who's played the first game, realize, oh no, this is the facility they're in. Salt Lake City. And you could have it be a mystery throughout the entire first part of the game. And then you figure out, oh, this is a Abby's at the facility. Is Joel coming? Oh, they, they just talked about some girl that possibly might cure the disease. Abby hears about this from her father, who's one of the researchers there. And then all of a sudden this monster comes in and kills everybody and all this safety that she's been able to accrue and that she's been able to fill and that you feel as the person who's playing the game is ripped away from you. And you have this dichotomy of Joel being both the hero in the first game, the person that you're rooting for, and the monster. And that's what they're trying to do with the game. But it doesn't feel satisfying because your, this character that you absolutely love gets ripped away from you by somebody that you don't love. throughout the rest of the game, you're playing as Abby. But no matter what, you just think you killed Joel. And there is no way that you can get past the fact that you killed Joel because you haven't established the character before you killed Joel. So you go throughout this story and Ellie, who I don't really like that they're fighting at the beginning of the show, but I kind of, uh, being in the game, but I kind of understand it. But you play as Ellie who regrets the fact that she was fighting with his father figure. play as Abby, who just killed Joel. And no matter how many bad things happen to Abby and how much they want you to feel empathy for her, you still are like, you killed my favorite character and it doesn't work. you get to the very end of the game and Ellie has literally carved a plath of blood. She has murdered everybody. She has just ripped people apart in a game that feels bloated in too long, in my opinion, on the gameplay side of things. the idea is that you have this empathy for both sides of things. You've, you played as Abby, you played as Ellie, and that's where the genius is supposed to be. But the end of the end of the game, you are on the outside looking at the story inside, Ellie has literally carved a path of blood. She has murdered hundreds of people to be able to get to Abby, able to take her down, and she finally has this opportunity to kill Abby. You as the viewer with what they're trying to do with the game where you have empathy for both sides are like, oh, don't kill Abby. That's what they're trying to get you to, to be at. Ellie doesn't have that. It doesn't make sense for the story. She has literally just murdered everybody to get to this moment, and then when she finally has Abby in the water and she's about to kill her, she has this epiphany of like, I, why am I doing this? I shouldn't be doing this. That is not satisfying in any way, shape, or form. Because Ellie has not had the experiences to say, this is not where we should be going. She could have like that. There is writing possibility for that to have happened, we don't have that. So in my opinion, Ellie should have killed Abby. And then when she goes back home, you can have the exact same se sequence where she's missing. Her finger and she can't play guitar, and her family is gone and it's extremely sad, but she's not anymore. Phil Full, having killed Abby, is still gone. Her family is still gone. But killing Abby makes more sense for the story and it would've been more impactful to us as the viewer. If you have Abby, Abby as a playable character before Joel is dead. And you really have that eight hours to really attach to her. And the reason I would've separated it from the second game is because if you start the second game and you're playing as this random girl, you're not gonna give a crap. You're gonna be like, where is Joel? Where is Ellie? Why am I playing like this? This doesn't, it doesn't feel satisfying. But if it's like a DLC kind of a thing where you're
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Or five for man, miles Morales.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:yeah, if it was something like that. it feels a lot more satisfying and you're like, oh, this is Deach, but this is super important to the next, next game. You could have even said that this is an absolutely fundamental story to what we're trying to create. Please play it. It's gonna be a little bit cheaper than a normal, full, full game. We'll charge you 30, 40 bucks, whatever it is. But we put everything we could to make this a great experience for you guys and I, we think the ending is gonna be super shocking. Please, please play it then when this whole entire second game. In my opinion then works the second game just has so many problems that there is no way you can combine them and actually have it work. was hoping with the second show, the second season of the show, because so many people have problems with the second game, that they would've taken ideas like this and shifted it a little bit because there is greatness here. just not done well in my opinion, and it leaves for a second game that is incredibly frustrating over bloated. Very long and not enjoyable to play really at all.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Yeah, I would agree with, because when I watched just the cut scenes and stuff, didn't realize, now that I'm thinking about it, I didn't realize that it is actually mostly Abby, like throughout that portion. So it would be kind of frustrating going from like, oh, well we're not even playing the characters we were playing beforehand. And once again, struggling with the fact that you're playing with the person that killed Joel. uh, remember the very ending when Abby. I mean, when Ellie didn't kill Abby I was like, wait, this is the whole reason. And like I understand and I, I'm with you. I think she should have killed Abby.'cause it should have been for the viewer to be like, oh, she shouldn't have done that. But like you said, Ellie didn't have all of the insight we did. Uh. it, I think that should have been like the takeaway for the player or the viewer versus for Ellie, because she didn't have all of that, like you mentioned. I did, I, I mean like it shocked me that the killed off Joel, but I'm not mad that they did of then what everything. did with that. And I loved how he's still in the game with like the cut scenes a little bit. Like you're not playing as him, but you get the little bits of like the museum where they're like talking about a space and stuff like that. And I thought that like Ellie was gonna like stay with her girlfriend and stuff like that. And I thought it was gonna be more of like, they're gonna learn how to survive and then you're gonna. Abby's way since Joel's dead, but then when it ended up being like Ellie destroyed basically everything to get to Abby, yeah, it didn't make sense for her to have that change apart the very last second. I agree with that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:What do you think John? Gosh.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:I don't have much to say. I've never played the game. I have no plans to play the game. Uh, the only 2 cents I can add here is I have not heard anybody complain about Joel's death like you pitched. Uh, that's not what I, my experience has been with it. Um, my experience was very much like. Team Red in the United States was very mad at it for changing Ellie and suddenly making her, uh, woke and Team Blue saying, look, we get to play as this woke character. How important is this for humanity? And then there was a small sect of people that were like, this game is pretty okay at best. Um, so for me, I was like. The first game is incredible. I absolutely love it. Me being the kind of person I am where I'm gonna analyze every single decision they make with a character and retroactively apply it to the old character. So if it doesn't add up, I'm going to be frustrated and irritated. Um, so for me it's like I could either hurt my experience that I had with the first one. Or I could just not play it. So that's where I landed. For me, the show doesn't exist. I'm not gonna watch the show because why would you watch the show when you can play such a brilliant game? And this is one of those examples where I would argue against like the show Existings to introduce more people to it. Because it's not a challenging game. It's not a, you know, like it is a game that I would be like, literally, anybody can play it. Everybody should play it. Everybody should get it a try. Give it a try. It's one of those games that is just so special. There are a number of games that I would say, yeah, give us a show. Let, let me give my non gamer friends something to talk about. Like that would be very cool.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:But this is
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:But
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:famous
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:a game. This game is so special that like any other way of in, in ingraining yourself in this story is just wrong in my mind. So like, I'm not gonna watch the show, I'm not gonna play the second game.'cause even the people like me who just don't care about the politics within the game are saying it's pretty good. At best. I'm like. For me, it's not gonna be that way.'cause I'm so analytical, I'm gonna be sitting there. Ellie wouldn't say that. How dare you change my character to do that thing? This is stupid and, uh, it, it is just not gonna work for me. So I'm, I'm not gonna spend my time on it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Even on a game play front, it's just bogged down. Like there are sequences in the game on the gameplay aspect that are just too long fill, like you've done this a million different times and you just want to get through it. And then when you're playing as Abby, you don't have the connection. So every single time you're playing against her, you're like, I want to get back to Deli. I want to get back to Deli. I want to get back to Deli. I. But then you don't for like eight hours. And it's just, it's unfortunately, I, I don't think this is a good game and I was hopeful that they would do some stuff with this TV show for season two, but they just followed the exact story, which I think it was a mistake.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Well, there's hope for season three then.'cause there's no game for them to fall back on.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I watched season one, but I don't think I want to watch season three and not because of everybody being like. Bill and Ellie and that stuff. I think that's, I think she was a fine casting. I,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:I think she does a pretty good job.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I loved the first season and I just don't like, yeah, I just, it, I feel like the second one gets so dark, uh, and I'm like, I'm, I'm trying to have more positive media in my life and I feel like it's such a, it's. Like, I can tell the message they were trying to tell. It's kind of a dark message. Um, not in the way of it being like wrong or right, but just that like it's heavy. and so I'm like, I, I stop it. One, we can pretend to be happy there.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Yeah,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:So.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:I would be, if I just had one, I would feel some completely satisfied. Two, made me less satisfied with every aspect of this.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:It's kind of like, I don't know, you wanna still be able to judge it based on one and just have one, but it's kind of like Star Wars where you know where it's going. So even the original trilogy is a little bit less satisfying because you're like, I know the garbage it goes to which it shouldn't. Like I really shouldn't affect how good. The original trilogy is, but it does a little bit to me and it affects how much I like the first game a little bit too.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Hmm,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Anyway, that's gonna be last of us. Let's go to our other shared topic Space Balls, which Lauren and I had never seen, um, which is, it's crazy to me. I love Star Wars growing up and I've never seen this. Uh, Lauren, what did you think?
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:was not my movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Okay.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:There was maybe one scene. But I kind of chuckled at the rest of it. I was just like rolling my eyes the entire time. It was not my humor. this was not catered to me in any shape or form. Uh, but the one scene I laughed at was when they found out that the last name of one of the generals was asshole. It's like I'm surrounded by assholes.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:That's one of the best parts of the entire
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Yeah. That was the only thing that I was like, ha, that's funny. and then I, I finished it because Bill Pullman was in it. I like Bill Pullman, it was a different, it was a it movie to see villain because I, it's funny'cause I have, I was watching Thunderbolts at the Ellie and she's like, oh yeah, Louis Pullman, that's. Pullman's son. And I was like, oh, bill Pullman as in Casper, bill Pullman. She's like, you mean, uh, while you were sleeping? Bill Pullman. And then Brandon's like, you mean, uh, what's
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Independent day bill.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:State? State Bill Pullman. And so it was really funny that we all had like a different that we knew Bill Poman from, but I guess nobody has a Space Balls Bill Poman. So. It was funny to see him in it,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Cool.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:yeah. Uh, that's about all I have to say.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Fair enough. Yeah, so I actually enjoyed this better weirdly, because I, I watched One Tree Hill and the Princess is, the mom is Brooke's mom in One Tree Hill, and it's the exact same character. And I just had this one. thing, enjoyable to me that they were the exact same character and somehow this universe is connected to One Tree Hill and I don't know why I found that really funny the entire time. Um, the assholes was really good. Your Schwartz is the same size as my Schwartz, I thought was very funny. That one made me laugh. There were a couple good chuckles in this, but I don't know why this is such a classic because. Even though this did have a couple good chuckles, it really did for me. I think that they were chuckles. That will work one time. really liked the merchandise. It's all about merchandise and the fact that they talked about up in Disney with the dinks before Disney bought Star Wars, I think is really funny that they called all that. Um, there, there were a couple good spots in this. there were good spots to watch once, and I think that I am good having watched this movie one time, we'll probably never watch it again. That's kind of where I am with it. What do you think, Josh? Our resident having watched this before
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Well, first thing I wanna say is you say these jokes only work once. But you yourself are laughing at the jokes now, quoting them,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:that's true.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:they clearly work more than once.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:That's a
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Uh, the second thing is both of you close your eyes for a second.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Okay.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Now imagine you're an 11-year-old boy watching this movie,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:I would love it.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:like
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:would find it
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:you're just not currently the target audience. Uh. So that's where I think a lot of that comes from. And for my review, I will say exactly that. I think that when I first watched this movie as a 10, 11, 12-year-old boy, however old I was when I first watched it, I was quoting it, having a good time with my friends. Um. Doing all of those things. Rolling my eyes at the stupid punts, because punts have always been terrible for me. Like, oh no, we've been jammed. It's raspberry. Like I never thought that that was funny. But when you get to them talking about the Schwartz and the rings and like, all of that stuff, like yeah, that's, that's really funny To a, an 11-year-old boy,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:that's
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:um, as I have watched this. Aging. I have liked it less and less. Um, I did not watch it this last week because the last time I watched it, I was utterly bored the entire time through it. Um, so like this, I would put in the classification of like, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, or if it's like you're in kind of a good mood. But you're also really, really tired. I think a lot of these jokes are gonna land and you'll have a great time with it. And if you watched it in like a group setting with a bunch of idiots who are acting like idiots, that will just build onto it. But sitting at home with your wife or by yourself and watching this and you actually start to think about it, it's not gonna be the best movie. So like. It is hard for me to rate this one'cause there is some nostalgia for it and there is some level of respect that it's like, you know, if you had a group of buddies and it was just past midnight and you threw it on, I think everybody would be laughing throughout the entire movie and making jokes and like having a good time with it. But at the same time, it's like this is a movie. I will never rewatch solo again. And like I'm also not going to watch the sequel.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:This
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:am, they're, they just announced it not that long
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Oh.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:which I do think is funny that they mentioned it in the first one. That's a joke that works better'cause they're making a sequel. see you again in, space Balls to the cash grab or whatever he says that was. I was like, that's pretty good. That's pretty good. And then Mel Brooks, when he announced it, he's like, we decided to make the movie that nobody was asking for, but we don't care. We're making it anyway. Baseballs too. And the guy's like 90 something years old. This will probably be his last movie, but. Yeah, I, I don't know it. I think my most disappointing part of this movie was John Candy.'cause I love John Candy and he is by far the worst part of the movie, in my opinion. I just don't think he's very good. I don't like the dog, human character type thing, but the rest of it's pretty enjoyable. Glad I watched it one time. What would you guys rate it?
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Three.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Six.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:I would give it a six two.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Like I, I think it's a good movie for you to watch at least one time. Like Lauren, are you at least happy you watched it one time so you can be in on the joke?
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:No,
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Okay, that's fine.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I, I struggled to watch, like watch, it literally took me five days to watch it because I. Would put it on, and then I would like just wander and then I'm like, oh, oh. And I'm like, try to watch it again. And yeah, it's, yeah, it, had to force myself,
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:I can see that that being a terrible experience. I, uh, that's fair.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:That sounds awful.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I mean, but. Now I do get, it's funny'cause I didn't realize that the people that I work with, I mentioned to them that I was watching it and then they're like, oh my gosh. We quote it all the time and I started listening and they do quote it all the time. So I guess to be in on the joke. Sure. I'm glad I
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Okay.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:She's like giving everything she possibly can. She's like, and like, I mean, gave me an excuse to. Like, sit down and eat a sandwich, I guess, like,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:was able to cook a meal.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:If I watched it the way you watched it, I would absolutely hate this movie.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:that's totally fair.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:to have, people to watch it with to make it,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:it,
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:yeah. Be an inexperienced,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:it would've been much better to watch it with people. I completely agree. Like 100%.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:had a better time watching this with you, Josh. Honestly.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Oh, uh, it's a movie that you can talk through so that like, when they're combing the desert, ha ha, ha.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Ha
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Okay. I actually did like that
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Oh, I thought that was
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Stupid pun.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I, well, it was funny because it was like, go comb the desert. And in my mind I was like, well, what if they like had combs and they were coming the desert and then they had big combes. I was like, so that one landed for me.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:Yeah, I don't think I've ever laughed at that joke in my entire life. Uh, but yeah, you can just have a good time with this movie. I think that's where it shines. Yeah. Beyond that, I don't think it's anything super special. I think the pa, like if you look at it analytically, the jokes are dumb. They're either crude or they're a pun.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:That's about it.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:That's about it. That's all you really get. And it's like, okay, Josh hates puns. So those jokes are terrible and crude jokes are very hard to pull off, so probably not there either. Okay. How's the pacing of the movie? Oh, well, let's, terrible. Okay. Uh, how about the. Inconveniences just to inconvenience the main characters. Oh, it happens like 12 times. Okay. So that's not very good. How good's the soundtrack? Oh, well it's, it's not that good. Okay. Uh, how's the acting? Well, that's the one bright spot of this that characters do get into telling jokes, not acting. So from an actor's point of view, not good, but as a joke teller's point of view, they do a great job and like. That's kind of all you really get with this movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Yeah. Like I have to admit that Rick Moore does a very good job. His dark helmet, like he is really good. Straight up.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:He is actually the only thing that gives me the tiniest bit of hope for this, the, the second one.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Is he coming back?
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:He is coming back and he said no to coming back for Ghostbusters because of the script specifically. So it's like, okay, so if he's coming back and the script is not the problem, there might be something good in there.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:okay.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:I might watch the second space balls just'cause of him. But ano,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:give the second one a try.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:gonna say, Lauren?
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:The, uh, another thing I noticed is that it's supposed to be a spoof off of Star Wars, but then they like spoofed anything that had to do with space in that time period. And so, I mean, it was kind of like, eh, I get it, but then in my mind I'm like, Hey, this is a Star Wars spoof. I know that doesn't mean anything, but.
josh-dietrich_3_07-02-2025_134942:I think it's a Star Trek, star Wars spoof. I don't think they ever specifically say it's just Star Wars.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:Oh, well they had like a Planet of the Apes. They had a, there was another one that I can't of, but yeah, I did see some Star Trek, star, uh, star Wars, um, oh, transformers randomly,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Oh yeah. That was weird. That was a weird part.
lauren_3_07-02-2025_174939:but yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-02-2025_174938:Um. Uh, speaking of being 12 and finding this really funny, I think the, he beamed me three times last night. Star Trek joke was 11, I think I would've thought that was the he most funny thing in the entire world. Watching it this time. I was like, that was dumb. Um, dumb. guys, that's gonna be our episode. We appreciate you watching, like, subscribe. We. Always wanna lift your spirits and if there's anything that we can watch, anything we can talk about that will lift you up a little bit, let us know. See you guys. Peace. Bye.
