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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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KPOP Demon Hunters, Sinners, Golden Son, Chuxie, Superman, WWZ, We were liars, A man on the inside
00:00 - KPOP Demon Hunters
09:00 - Sinners
16:59 - Golden Son
23:55 - Chuxie
31:44 - Superman (2025)
43:06 - World War Z (Videogame)
48:43 - We Were Liars
55:51 - Scoob!
01:04:08 - Man on the Inside
onscreen offscreen with Josh Collin and myself. We watch things during the week and say how it affects our lives and how our lives affect what we watch. Um, we're back with, uh, our normal setting of a episode after we just did our overrated, underrated, uh, and I want to hear conlin about K-pop demon hunters for a
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:in a row.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:So I've decided that I'm gonna be the resident hater on this podcast.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:are, we're not listening to this. Nevermind. So
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah, so I don't think this is bad, but the fact that Josh gave it a nine blows my freaking mind. For real. Absolutely crazy. Um, I'm gen. Genuinely. I would probably give this a six. A six. Um. I think the animation is fine, but it's not a negative, it's not positive. It's fine. Um, my favorite part of this, of this movie is the girls' relationship.'cause it felt very authentic. Like they did a good job with the writing of that aspect and the whole Ouch Couch thing was my, was was great. Like, genuinely loved that. Everything else is pretty mediocre, like the girl. Uh, has to, has this magic that is overtaking her because she hasn't told her friends about this magic and the fact that she has a secret and she needs to reveal this secret so that she can, uh, eat the, be defeat the evil or whatever. She kind of needed to like, let it go, let it go. She like just couldn't hold it back anymore and it's so played out. I don't think the music is that good, to be completely honest. Golden is an enjoyable enough song, I guess I listen to it, it's fine. The best song in the entire musical is the one where she sings with the demon guy, um, that that's the best song in the musical. It's the only one that I would debate listening to. Again, it's, it's fine. The demon, the i, I, I'm not a big fan of the whole whiny sissy. Girly guys, and there are so many guys in this that are just crying all the time. Oh, I, I love Hunter so much. Ripping off the shirt. it, it's stupid. I didn't enjoy that at all. And it's constant throughout the entire movie. You have whiny little pansy ass guys the entire
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:are the kind of guys that listen to boy bands though.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I guess so. So like a niche. It's very, it feels like a very niche movie so that it's getting the love that it's getting. I don't understand because like if you are a preteen girl, I can understand this hitting you really, really hard. I've got. friend who has some pret girls and they're rewatching this over and over and over again. Sure. I get that. That point of view, the fact that both of you liked this movie as much as you did is astounding to me because I think most of it is mediocre. Just because it deals with depression doesn't mean that a movie or a book or whatever is good like it doesn. It's very surface level, it's very base. Oh, you have some things that you're hiding about yourself and you're not accepting yourself. That doesn't make a, a good movie. It makes for something that is completely and utterly fine. I don't wanna say that I hate on this. It's not terrible. Was it worth my time? No. Is this the type of movie that we are like actively trying to avoid? We're trying to find something that moves us. We're trying to find something that inspires us. That's what we're trying to go for, and this is not one of those movies. It is completely and utterly fine.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:You're wrong.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Yeah, I was
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Quite and simple. Like it's not surface level depression. Um, it's very much, very deep depression in that like. Her hiding. It makes the depression worse. Um, I talked about it last time, how the, the demon lord, whatever, um, uses people's insecurities and stuff like that in order to make them feel shame, which gives them stronger control over them. Um. Like you say that that's surface level, but like what else does that, to that level, to that effect?
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Where you hide something and then it brings shame and results of the entire story. Like every single teen drama ever.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Name what?'cause I really disagree with you there that like to this level. To the fact that everybody's shame is what is controlling them.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:half of the teen dramas are, I have this secret that I'm afraid to tell, and if I would just tell the, the secret that I'm afraid to tell all the story that's going to happen from this point on would not happen. But I can't tell this secret because I'm ashamed of this secret. I'm just gonna keep
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Okay, but how many of those secrets do you feel like are actually worth being kept?
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:um.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:watch that show and you say, just tell them they're kind people. You're hiding it from your friends. There's no reason they're gonna judge you for that stupid secret. This one, their whole lives are dedicated to killing demons, and she is literally hiding the secret that she's half demon. You actually understand her hiding the secret.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Yeah, to like bridge the gap. I don't think that there's anything in like the plot or the story of this that's like like I don't think that the plot is very like surprising. It is very predictable, but they do it very well because there's like that part where she goes. To like her mother figure. And she is like, just fricking end me. And she's like, no. And she's like, look at me. And she's like, I, I love you, or whatever. And she's like, love all of me. Like you didn't love all of me. And this is the problem. Like, you can't see, you can't accept all of me. And then at the end she's like able to, it's. of the same reason that I like Penelope. But you didn't like it Josh? And it makes me sad, but she like realizes she has to like accept herself and like love herself and then like the curse is broken or, or whatever. But.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:But isn't that so played out of like, you gotta love all of you. Yeah. Even that ugly part. You gotta love all of you. That isn't so much stuff.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Not
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:much
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:are still not loving themselves, so we, it's not getting through to
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:so
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:So I
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I,
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:sorry.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:this, this might, this might be contradictory, this might be unpopular, but I think that's a very feminine problem. Um, I think you are extremely just naturally judgmental of yourself. I actually think it's a natural like. um, because I see basically every single little girl do it. So are you reaching out to that same audience with the same problem that's happened for generations over and over and over again? Yeah, absolutely. Sure. But. I'm not that demographic that is not me, that I am not the 12-year-old who is trafficking to figure out that I should love myself for just the way that I am, even though I have all of these problems, or I'm not pretty enough or whatever. I'm not that person that is not my demographic.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:like I said, I do, I get that niche being hit. Absolutely. I'm not that dish.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:yeah, so that's why I disagree with you saying like that this isn't an uplifting or a life changing movie isn't for you. But I think it is helpful for people that it is hitting for, and I think that it is important because does hit a niche, a different niche with telling this story. So I think, I think it is a good story and I think it is uplifting. And even though it's not like a surprising plot, you know, I think it's. Still good message. And I think it, I love the music that went with it. I'm glad that it's getting the, uh, praise that it's getting because I don't think that it's taking away from anything like a lot of other media.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I, I, I don't have a problem with this show. Like, I get that it has a niche. That's what I, that's literally what I just said as a niche. Cool. Absolutely love this show. I was surprised that you guys liked it as much as you did to be completely honest. But my, like I said, my friends little girls, I absolutely understand why they love this movie. Absolutely get it. I can see in appeal, it's not like, I think this is a terrible movie. just think this is pretty of mediocre coming.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:All right. Well then let's go to our next topic. I think this is kind of a shared one in between you. So let's go to sinners.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Do you want me to go first? Do you want Josh to go first?
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Okay. You go first.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay. I. I was disappointed in this movie, to be completely honest. Um, I really like vampires. I'm a big vampire movie fan and there are parts of this movie that I think are really cool. I think. Um, what's the main guy's name again? The main
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Michael B. Jordan.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Michael B. Jordan, I think does a very good job in this movie. acting I think is really good. I think the what man? Sorry guys. Haley Steinfeld, I think is a standout in this movie. She does a very good job and it's a very different performance than what I've seen her do before. Do before. I think she is a underrated actress, EV. Everyone does a pretty good job. Some of the uses of music in this is extremely good. I like the idea of. Kind of a gangster movie and you're dealing with the Ku Klux Klan and being able to develop after some of these things have went away. All, all of that was really interesting. I think it's a beautiful movie, but the first half has a lot of drawn out parts where it just is too long and needed to be edited down. the second half, vampires aren't very creepy. They're doing like an Irish jig in front of the. The place that they're trying to get into, and it's just kind of bizarre and weird. the whole Michael B. Jordan didn't kill his twin brother when he had the chance. I was not a big fan of. Um, vampires at times feel like they have supernatural strength and at times where it's convenient feel like they're super weak. So you're left with something that has a lot of inconsistencies. And I was, I was pumped for this movie. It's, it's been rated extremely, extremely well. Uh, the reviews are really good, this is another one that I don't think is a terrible movie, should have been edited down. And the vampires, in my opinion, should have been dealt with better because it could have been really good. Like there's, there's the makings of something really good there. I, I, I think in a lot of ways it just missed the mark, unfortunately. And I was, I was, I, I was a little disappointed, not, not, not horrible, just, just not, not, not great.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:you and Josh.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I was pleasantly surprised with this movie, uh, mostly because I didn't know what it was. I knew that it was getting very, very popular. I knew it had Michael PE Jordan in it. That is the entire list of what I knew going into this movie. Uh, Klan's exactly right. The beginning of it is really, really drawn out and I honestly thought that it was going to be like 10 minutes in. It was gonna be about Michael B. Jordan and his brother doing crime business things, and that's mostly about what the movie is, and that sucked. Everything to do with that side of the plot really, really sucked. Um. And that lasted a very long time. And then vampires showed up and I was like, whoa, what, what the heck? Um, and I did actually really like the vampire parts. Uh, it was a different take. It was pretty interesting. Um, the fact that they were singing in order to piss them off in order to let them in was very interesting to me.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Um.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I didn't really like the, the dancing part was a little bit cringey to me. The singing around the building I thought was actually kind of cool. I'll, I'll give it that. The
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:the building was kind of cool.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Um, I was disappointed in the end, uh, because I actually thought that they were blessing the wa the pond that they were standing in by saying the prayer and that's what was going to get'em. And I was like, oh, that is so clever, you know, that it's just. They accidentally did. I was like, and then Michael B. Jordan shows up and I was like, okay, that's stupid. And then there's an entire like 10 minutes of movie after that where I'm like, I don't care about your business. Bs. Um, all that being said, I was pleasantly surprised, but still a movie I don't like.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah, there's parts of it that are really cool, like there's a part where. They're dancing, they're celebrating black cultural music throughout time, and you have different timeframes of music that are inside of this barn as they're moving around. And I thought that was legitimately super cool. Really liked that. The tension of the vampires getting coming I thought was quite good, but when the vampires come, it just was, I don't know. Do you feel like, I felt where the vampires sometimes were crazy strong and sometimes were like weak.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Uh, no. But I will preface this. I was watching the show while working on my computer, so it actually took the second appearance of vampires for me to realize they were vampires. I heard the like guy screaming and the other guy killing'em, and then I looked over and saw them like making eye contact and like. Running away or whatever, and I was like, oh, that person killed the other person. I did not connect. That person was just like biting the other person's neck and just created a vampire. Um, so no, I didn't feel that way, but you're probably right about that.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay. Okay. would've liked it if they did do the blessing, the lake thing, and that's actually what killed the vampires. I would've given this major kudos, I also was very unsatisfied with all the vampires dying because I'm like. You're not dumb. You guys obviously still have thoughts in your thinking. You're not becoming wild beast, you know, the sun is coming up. What, what are you doing?
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Well, I took it as they were a hive mind.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:yeah, I,
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:And he was in control of them. Yeah, I, I actually thought that he was gonna bless the water and then bite him with the holy water, and that's what was gonna kill him. And then the, the regular people were gonna be free because they killed the head vampire.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:that's what I thought they were gonna do too. And I was like, that's would be really cool. But they,
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:They didn't do that.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:didn't do
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I also would've liked the movie better if they just ended with the vampire fight.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah, me too.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:So what would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I gave it a six. I think there's enough positive to be like it. Was it five? Uh, maybe a 5.5. There's enough positive to be positive ish about it, this movie, we, we were talking earlier about how horn movies don't ever get good ratings. This has a 7.7, I'm sorry. There's just a lot of better vampire movies in this movie. There's a lot. It's, it's okay. It's
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I don't know about a lot'cause there's not a lot that I've seen that I've really liked. But there is better. Um, lost Boys is better.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:It's better than Twilight though. But all that being said, I would give this a 4.5.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I would not watch this again. I would rather watch Black Panther.'cause at least Black Panther, I would feel like. There's some good in it. I'm indifferent about this one. I'm like, I really don't wanna see that again.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Fair enough. I was, I was very excited about this movie. Extremely, extremely disappointed, unfortunately,
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:disappointed.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:All right. Well, let's move on to another one of Josh's topics. You can pick which one you wanna talk about.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I will pick Gold and sun. Uh, second book in the Red Rising series. I'll get it out of the way. This one's not as good as the first book.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Hmm.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:It's just not, um,
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:such an.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:A hot
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:That, that's such a hot take, Josh. I, I don't know anyone else who has read these books. Anybody that would agree with you? No. One
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:uh, well, everybody's crazy'cause the first book is just better. Uh, the second one is still really, really good. To be fair, I still really, really liked the second book. This is still a very good series. I'm still invested. I still wanna see where it goes. The ending is very, very shocking. Like I see all the good in it. I'm still really into this series. I'm still super into it. I've got some flights coming up in a. Week and a half, and I've, like, this series is what I plan on listening to on my long flights. Like I'm super invested in it. Still very, very good. I just liked the first book better. Um, I also would've liked more context going into the second book.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:we j we jumpstart the book starts with him finishing his flight school stuff and him getting kicked out of the family that we just. Built the entire first book around him joining. So like I was like, oh man, I really wanna see more of what happened in the school. And then the thing that the whole first book was about got taken away and I was like, oh, okay. Like there was no buildup to that. This may be the case, like why is this all fully happening? I don't fully like it. Feels interesting to be like, and the climax to the end of the first book is this, and the beginning of the second book is you don't have that anymore. And no real context as to why or what fully happened there or anything. Just some half-assed excuse that was given to'em that we get told is a half-assed excuse, but like no buildup to that. So. That's my only real negative to the book. Uh, from there it absolutely takes off. It's really interesting, very first book again where he's regaining his power, he's making alliances, he's dealing with the politics. He's having some really cool fights. He's doing some really good stuff. All build up to this incredible, very cool ending. That was very shocking. With a, a twist, and I have my predictions about, but can't confirm.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay. I, that's fair. I, the highs of this book were so high for me, like the far, the part where you figure out he's been training for months and months and months was just such a badass part for me. I love it. I love the ending. Um, the highs were so much higher than Book one, and the lows were also higher to me than the lows of Book one. Um. But I'm, I'm talking about two fantastic books. I just, as a whole package, book two felt more sophisticated and I, I, I just enjoyed it better. It, it's one that sticks in my mind more.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:That's fair for me. The first one, the, the lows are, it takes a little bit to get going,
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:but all of those things pay off because of everything that you just read. Whereas the second book you start off with like, well, and nevermind, and you move in and like the highs are very, very good. I loved the scene where he took Mustang to the mine.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:It's
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I love Mustang as a character. My prediction is that she's the one who betrayed him. I am hoping that I am wrong. But that's my prediction. Um, it's so well written, that scene. It's great. Uh, I just feel like the, the twist of the twin brother wasn't really well set up, so that whole part of it, not super well, the whole Rook Rock, whatever his name is, was built up and was very satisfying. So there's like all these layers to it. And you're like, wow, this part of it was really, really great and this part was not as satisfying. And I think if you had the context of him training to then have that fight with Cassian, it would've made it so much more awesome of a fight. And like I would've felt more invested in him finishing off Cassian then I did.'cause I was like, okay, well now he's just starting the revolution. It didn't feel like. He earned that kill, if that makes any sense.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:didn't, you, you didn't see him train with, uh, uh, what is, was Lor, Lauren Al, that guy, the, the guy, the
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:The guy, yeah, and like you find out that he did that in the moment when he tells Cassian, well I've been trading, and he is like, he hasn't taken anymore students. And you're like, okay, this is my first time learning this information so it doesn't hit.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I, I get where you're coming from, but they do talk about how he's this great sword master, and to me it felt like even when I first read it, this is. Foreshadowing. I thought he was going to become a pupil instead of that. He was already a pupil when I first read it. I remember thinking that, but him already being a pupil, I was not angry at by any
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I'm not angry at it either.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I thought it
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:It's just like I, I am interested into what happened. Like I would love a 1.5 book. That's what I'm saying.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:could actually see him.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Argue the fact that I should be taught by you and then actually get taught and go through a
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:and
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Plus whatever, all of his training, like we start out with him at the end of this big space battle. Right.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:He is commanded. Like, I want to know that a whole space battle. I want the buildup of did that ship get away before finding out it didn't get away. We start off and we have him saying, go into the asteroid belt, and somebody saying, what if there's a survivor and him saying there's no survivor, and you go, okay, so there's a survivor.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Mm.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Like
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:So you would love a 1.5 where, because it's a, it's a jump. Like
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I, I would love a 1.5. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah. That's fair.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Alright, well let's go to, uh, I guess this is kind of a shared topic because, uh, Josh watched me play Chuckie this week.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:is a horror game and I was not a fan.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:She was not having the time of her life. She was laughing and having a great time playing this game.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:I think I need to get checked out by a doctor and see if my heart's okay. Um, because it was so funny because I was having a week and so I like asked Josh if he wanted to play a game'cause I was just not having the best day. So we tried. Brad and Fred, and we both got very, uh, with it very quickly. So then I was like, what do I have downloaded? I was like, you can watch me scream at Chucky. So, uh, immediately I think I screamed, shot a light bulb, and, uh, just like scared myself.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:There was literally nothing happening. She freaked out, shot a light, and then was like the light blew out. I, I got scared. I'm like, you shot the light out.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Uh, and then, uh, there was some
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:That's awesome.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:join, like me streaming it. And I like warned everybody. I'm like, I'm just gonna be screaming at the top of my lungs, so turn my mic down in your ears. Um, but I got to the halfway point, so I'm proud of myself, but there was a lot of nopes that game. Didn't like the fast pigs. didn't like having to shoot the lights out. yeah, there was just a lot of me screaming and shooting as fast as I can empty a clip. So, uh, if you're into horror games and jump scares, um, it was just basically jump scares. Ugh. And I'm so bad at jump scares. Um. Yeah. Don't think I'll pick it up again unless I have everybody watching me to make me feel better. Um, but yeah, I mean, it did pull me out of, uh, my funk of being stressed out about what was going on during the week, so that was a plus. Uh, but yeah. So we'll just go onto our next thing.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Con I wanna add to this,
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Uh.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:okay. Uh, Conlin, I talked about the spatial audio of this game. Lauren was walking down the beginning hallway. It's not the first hallway, but it's like the second one. And there's a part where stuff knocks on the doors as you're walking past it. And she literally spun to the side that the sound was coming from.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Like
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:So
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:spun to the side
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:no, like her character was like, over there, over there, over there. Like, so just edification for me and to prove to you it has great spatial audio, uh, which makes it very, very good. And then the second thing I wanted to add, she ruined my favorite part.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:What, what happened?
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:So there's a part with all these white cloaked things, right? And the whole thing, and it got me, which is why I'm so mad it didn't get her, is they send one at you and then you get halfway through the room and they send a second one at you, and then you're supposed to get to this bookcase and think you're safe, and then come back out and they're supposed to send a third one at you. But she was like in the doorway and was like, oh, there's one. Oh, there's a second one. Oh, there's a third one. And she just killed them. And I was like, that third one scared the crap out of me. I was so excited for this part. I was literally making food and hurt her come up to this point. And I ran back in here to watch her play this part and she's just like, no big deal. Whatever. But like the pigs were terrifying. And I was like the ping. Um, yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:That's hilarious. That's so funny.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:sheet was breathing and so I was like. I'll kill you. Kill. And then I was like, are any of these other sheets breathing? Because I doubt that.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I know. But the third one is supposed to be so well hidden and it was like blocked by another one. You could literally see. Let me do it like that. Much of its face and she's like there, it's like, oh my gosh, you ruined it. I was like, the best scare in this entire game was right there.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:And she shot it.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Yeah.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:shot it.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:awesome.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:What would you rate your experience, I'm not gonna say rate the game'cause I know you hate the game. What would you rate your experience with it on a scale one a 10?
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Uh, I would actually say the experience was a eight. If it was by myself, it would be a zero. But since
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Yeah.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:people watching it with me, the experience was like an eight. because one, it did pull me out of my funk. I was in. And that, but like two, I was actually kind of scared about my heart at some point in that game.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:And the people who joined in with the stream also probably made her feel better because they were also being like, oh, that is terrifying.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Yeah. Oh my gosh. What is that like? I know, right. scared right now, but.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:So what's your next horror game?
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Or whatever you guys, I guess, suggest, because I'm not gonna be looking up any,
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:What should we have her play next? Josh,
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I think outlast,
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:are you serious?
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:that sounds like a no.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:uh, it's better than Blair Witch. And I think Alien Isolation is a little too intense. Uh, outlast is the next step.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:What about like the Fear Games or Amnesia or,
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Fierce first person shooter, she'd really struggle. Like she just wouldn't have fun with it. She would get to the point where she was like, okay, I'm just dying. This isn't scary anymore.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Let me do it through this part.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:All right. Then.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Like this game is like a two hour game and that's as much first person shooter. And she's good with like, uh, I think, I think outlast is the next one.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Okay. Outlast. You're gonna play outlast.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:I'm already scared.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:It is just an abandoned mental hospital. No big deal.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:favorite. Yeah.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Oh, no big deal.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:you're
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:I
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:good old time at the abandoned Maysville
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Yeah, no big deal. Oh
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah, no big deal.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:All right.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:And then you can play little nightmares.'cause little nightmares is great.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:yeah. Well, she actually might be really into that. She just played limbo and inside and liked them both.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Oh, you did cool.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:like those ones. It was, yeah. Uh, was a weird ending, I liked them. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah, they're really good. would highly recommend little nightmares.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:So Conlin, when are you gonna stream Chucky?
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I don't know. I have
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Let's let Lauren and I laugh at you while you play it. How about that?
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:I would love to do that.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Sure, let's do it. That'd be fun. I don't know when, but let's do it. be fun.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Alright, well I wanna hear about Superman. Conlin is
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I get to talk positively about something. Halla freaking. Hallelujah. Let's go. So I, yeah, it is the new, this is the new Superman. I saw it yesterday. I was so pleasantly, happily surprised with this movie. This is the best superhero movie I've seen since werewolf by night. Um,
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Ooh.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I, it feels very much like a superhero movie, and it is extremely hopeful. entire thing with Superman feels like. The character who's all hopeful and he just wants to help people out, but they add complexity to the movie where you have social media and you have people arguing on both sides like everybody does, where everything he does. Gets judged as being, oh, this is completely wrong, or, oh, this is completely good. And I never felt like they were trying to shove a point down my throat. That is so, so rare in any movie now. I felt like they were just talking about the complexity of being human and how complex and hard it would be to be Superman in the world that we live, where everything you do gets judged by everybody all the time. And they captured that extremely well. doesn't feel like this overpowered. I can take anything down guy, like he gets his ass kicked multiple times in this movie, but he just keeps trying and he just keeps trying to be hopeful. The connection that he has with Lois Lane is good. The relationship is really, really enjoyable and it's, it's, it's not always easy. Like there's this part, maybe my favorite part of the movie where they're arguing and. He's like, I'll give you an interview anytime, Louis. I'll give you an interview anytime. Because he interviews himself and that's how he becomes kind of a big deal. And that's part of the comics too, but, and she's like, oh, you, you will, okay, let's do an interview right now. And she starts doing the interview and she really pushes him on topics. Um, and there's a, there's a war going on that felt very much like a, if there, if there's anything where they were trying to make a little bit of a point, it's because of this war. And it felt very much like Ukraine versus Russia to me. like. Him standing up for their Ukrainian people is kind of part of the story, but it still didn't feel heavy handed to me. But she goes in on him like, do you have any right to do this? What, uh, did you talk to the leader of that country? You just decided that this was the fate of the country. What about the, the country that's, that's fighting? Do they might have a point too. And he is like, and she, he brings up the fact that, uh, people were going to die. She said, that mean that you have the right to dictate what happens in these countries? I might not agree with the invading country. I might not agree with their morals, but does that mean that you have the right to dictate what happens in this part of the world? And it's very, very well done. The writing is extremely good. The, the comic book of it really comes through. it feels lighthearted. It feels. It's just good. The, the, the cinematography is really well done. The CGI never felt outta place. I never felt like it pulled me out of the show. The relationships are good. There's a part with the Kents, um, his parents after he's been really hurt. Lois brings. Him to the Kents for the first time and meets them, and it's very well done. The cats feel like parents, they feel like they're trying to help, and I liked that the writing of the Kents didn't feel like, oh, this was written by somebody. felt like, oh, these are real parents who are trying to give advice. But Superman lived such a bigger life than they would they'll ever live that they don't really know exactly what to say.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:they're just saying what they can, they're trying to be like, you know what? I'm proud of you, son. I don't, I don't know exactly what to say, but I'm so proud of you. I'm so proud of how hard you try and I'm sorry that you're going through this and I'm sorry. So many people are taking a crap on your name. Um, there's Lu Luther is really well done in this and Luther Studies Superman. So he has a. A villain, which has a kind of a cool twist in my opinion. So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna spoil that. But he has a villain and the villain is, is equal power to Superman. But he's literally acting like a programmer. He's like, he's acting like the video game player for a street fighter game. And he is like, uh, move B, move, C, move. X and he's literally countering Superman, beat by beat because he studied Superman so well. And that is Lex Luther. I think this is the best Lex Luther that we have ever had.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Hm.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Um, it's a smart character. It's a smart villain. He's very compelling. But he is also, he, he's a, he's a comic book type character. So there's a part where like they go into this altered dimension that he's built where he has a prison, that he's prison, uh, that he's holding all of these people that. He, um, he thinks are too dangerous to be on earth, like Lex Luther is, has all these people and he is got a, a whole farm of monkeys and people thought this was cringey, but a whole farm of monkeys that are acting like AI bots and basically crap talking Superman the entire time, like shitty man and all these different things. And he is coming up with hashtag. it is. And it's just like a, a farm of monkeys that are talking all day long about how crappy Superman is, and that is very much a comic book type of thing. I was so, so pleasantly surprised by this movie. I like Krypton, uh, crypto. The dog is very charming. Um, if I had to give one weakness to the movie, it is, it is Nathan Fillion as, as Green Lantern. It. It came off a little cringey, but he is not in it that much. It's pretty passable. Everything else is very enjoyable. I was very surprised. Very surprised.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Good. have been, I wanna go see it in theaters and I've been looking forward to it coming out in theaters. So I'm glad that it's been getting the reviews.'cause it seems like everything that I've seen so far is like, oh, walking outta Superman, full of hope. And I was like, that's what Superman's
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Yeah.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:to be. So
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:It is so hopeful. It's just a, it's just a good time.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:That's
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:just a good time.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:I'm good. I, yeah.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:I was originally not going to go see this, but uh. There are some very big, uh, Marvel lovers in my life who are very big, like end game Infinity War defenders who said this was better than those.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:I.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:So that is a big point. And the other point I have is like, I think Manas sucks. And one of my big criticisms of that is Superman's not supposed to be Batman. He's not supposed to be dark and gray and morally gray. He's supposed to be bright colored and hopeful. And literally a lot of the arguments for this movie are like, look at how bright his suit is. Look at how much hope it represents. And I'm like, oh wow. They did Superman the way Superman's supposed to be and the movie's exceeding crazy. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_4_07-16-2025_191149:Who would've guessed? No way.
josh-dietrich_4_07-16-2025_151151:Who kind of predicted that thing? Um, so that's also kind of gotten me as like, okay, maybe I'll see this when it comes out.
lauren-_4_07-16-2025_191148:Oh, there's been an interview with, I think the actor's name is David, who plays Superman. And how everybody, like, the people who like Henry Cap's Superman. They're like, why is this trunk? It's on the outside or so, and they're like, it's so that he's more approachable. And I love how like, uh, David was saying, he is like, no, I love that It's on the outside suits. It's for the comics. It's to show that. He's like,
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:everybody should be able to approach Superman, and that's why it's colorful and he has with the trunks on the outside, um, instead of being like the edge, Lord Henry Superman. But yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I agree. And, uh, the actor I think does a really good job with Superman. I, I like Henry Cabell as Superman. I don't like that movie. Um, and. I think he does a better job. He has a Christopher Reeves kinda to him,
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Mm-hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:he is got, he's got all that hope and you, you guys should go see this movie. It's just, it's very good.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:retriever that Superman's supposed to be.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Yeah, absolutely. And Lois Lane is kind of grounding also lows, lane's, not I feel like it would've been easy to make her a kind of a pandering character. Or a belligerent character, but she's just somebody who challenges Superman in a way to make him think without, that's one of the things I liked about the relationship. I, I feel that's an extremely hard thing to write and very, very rare where a spouse is like, I want you to think broader. I want you to think more open. I want you to think more, not, I want you to think a specific point. she challenges him to think broader and think bigger, which is, that's cool. rare. Um.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Here's this question for you.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:You said you liked crypto. Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:did actually.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:how did you, like, did he look good?
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:He looked good. Um, he, I'm not a dog person, but he was very charming in a weird way. Like there's a where Lex is trying to learn about GTOs powers. So he sticks electrodes to his brain and makes him think that he's chasing super squirrels throughout the sky, and it's just. It's, it's really well done.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I asked'cause I found out he's the only CGI aspect of the movie.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Oh, he looks really good. I didn't know that. Like the only thing that I could say kind of negative about CGI is there's a giant like bug type monster thing, and it looks, it looks good, but I feel like the color palette of the monster doesn't match the movie. It's
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I think he practical effects
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:That's pretty amazing,
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I'm, I think crypto is the only thing that is CGD in the movie. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure I heard that.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:He is remarkably looking, uh, good looking like it. I never, for one second, didn't believe that that was an actual dog. Not
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Cool.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:in the movie, ever.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:What would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I, I need to rewatch it, but right now I give it a. I was very, very pleasantly surprised with this movie.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Good. Alright, uh, Josh, let's go to your last topic.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Okay, so my last topic is the game World War Z. This is a pretty old game that I only just found out about and it what we were hoping back for Blood was going to be.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Really.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:is the best left for dead alike. Ever that I've played, I it is better than ment tied two. It is so much fun. I'm having a blast playing it. I have only completed two sections of the first, so like two chapters of the first book and there are 12 books. There is so much content in this game. It is challenging. It is fun. The hoards of zombies are done even better than like the game daisy. Uh, you actually have to work together. You all have specific abilities and things like it is fantastic. I am having a great time playing it. And Conlan, you should absolutely get it'cause I think you would absolutely love this game too.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I, I will. That sounds. That sounds awesome. It sounds like something that I would love.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Yeah, uh, I got it on steam cell for like 15 bucks. The regular game price is like 30. It's absolutely worth it. I would pay 60.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:you would pay 60.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I would pay 60. It's a great game, like I am having a, a blast with this game.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Okay. Okay.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Is it as good as left or dead? No, it is not as good as left or dead to be clear, right? If you're saying, oh, I'm hoping it's gonna be as good as left or dead, it's not.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Left for dead is the best?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:But it, it is a great spiritual successor to it, and it's different enough that it stands on its own feet, namely, and like the zombies.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:And do you feel like the weapons are pretty solid, like impactful?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:in it is great.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Okay.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:got a great we weapon system. It's got tiers of weapons, so it's not like left or dead or a lot of games where it's like there just is a best weapon. Um, this one's like, no, you just can't start with the best weapon. You have to go and find it. Um, you have to kinda like build your character throughout the map. Uh, y'all have. Different equipment and different things that you can do with it. So like I play the medic, so like I have a gas cloud that I can release that will build people's health and stamina temporarily. Um, and like the hoards are done so well. Like, you know, in the movie Daisy, when it's climbing up the wall,
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Yeah,
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:it's like that. But in the game, yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:That's cool.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:It's, it's awesome. It's very, very good. It's a great time, Lauren. You might have fun with it, but it's a first person tutor, so I don't know
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I was
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:whether or not
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:uh, one player or group.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:it's group. You play in a team of four and if you don't have four people or three other people with you, it fills it with CPUs just like in Letford Did. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Are the,
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:a great time.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:and are the CPUs better?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:No, but however, I will say this, um, I was playing yesterday with a group of three people, but one person was having a computer issue and we were about to die, all of us, but his computer disconnected when he died, and it put a bot in that was full health, and the bot ran around and healed us all. So we got to keep going. But yeah, the bots are completely u useless if you go down, the bots will compl will just run to you and try and heal you and ignore the fact that they are also being attacked and dying. They're completely like suck, but it's still fun. And, oh, I was gonna say this. This has the best difficulty scaling I have ever experienced.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:That's awesome.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Playing on hard by myself feels exactly as hard as it is to play on hard with a team. Full, full crew.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:That's amazing.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:cool because that, yeah, that's not very common at all.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:yeah. No, it's always like the hardest is too hard or, and becomes bullet sponges. Like there's very clearly, like a developer made it for set difficulty.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Mm-hmm.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:But to have it scale with like actual difficulty as well as like number of players, I've never seen it done very well. And this one, it's like, yeah, it's, it's exactly as hard as it is to do it on my own or with one other person or whatever.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Very cool. I watch it. All right. Well not watch it. I'll play that. I'll play that.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I'll watch you play that.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I mean, I actually kind of like the, the movie too. I think it's, it's
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I love the movie. I think it's great. I don't think that's a guilty pleasure at all. It's genuinely a good movie.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:It's very enjoyable.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:And did you rate it already?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Uh, eight out of 10, I guess.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Okay. Solid.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:All right. We'll go to my last topic. Uh, I watched, well, yeah, I watched, we were liars. Uh, on prime. It's I watched the first two episodes and then the last two episodes, uh, I saw some edits on. Um, like Instagram reels and TikTok that I was like, I wanna know the context behind this video. And everybody's saying that. They're like, oh, I was crying. I bawled my eyes out. And I was like, I watched the first two episodes and I was like, I really don't care about these characters. So I went online, read what the next like, few episodes were gonna tell because it's like an hour. Um, each episode and then I watched the last, um, two episodes that had that edit in it, I bawled my eyes out. I was like, I thought I hated these characters and haven't had something. Like I was on the train this morning trying not to let. The neighbor sitting next to me see me bawling from this fricking movie. And I was like, I was like, my heart hurts. I like, I'm trying to breathe normally right now with this person in front of me. Um, yeah, I wasn't expecting it to hit me as hard when I really didn't care about the characters. Um, but then those last, and I didn't even watch the middle parts. Part of this, but that ending nailed it. And I was, yeah, it hurt my heart and my eyes trying to suck those tears up.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:is this about? What? What is this?
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:So, um, without getting Spoily. It's this, there's these four, kids that, they're these rich kids that every summer they go to their, uh, this island that their family owns. And like of the, so there's the, the grandpa, the, the moms, they call'em, there's three moms and then, uh, them, the kids, and they call them the liars.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Okay.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:we were liars, um, because they're like, they were always getting up to trouble and like lying about what they were doing and stuff. Um, and so it's showing them, starts off with one of the girls washed up on the beach and, um, she has like, doesn't know how she got there. Uh, and it's, so that's in like 2017. And then it goes back. To the summer of 2000. Oh wait, no, 2016 is when the accident happened, and it keeps jumping in between 2017 and 2016 of like her going back to the island trying to figure out what happened to her because no one's telling her what's happened to her. Uh, her cousins won't tell her what's going on with, like, what happened. Um. And everybody's like, you have to remember by yourself. The doctor said that, like, that's how you're gonna get the migraines to go away. Like you have to remember by yourself. We can't tell you. Um, and so it flips in between going up to the accident, the accident, and then the fallout of the accident. And it's just played all jumbled up. So there's kind of like some mystery to it. Um, there's like. Uh, other storylines where it's like showing the moms and like the dad, uh, will definitely play favorites among the daughters. And like how, uh, everything has just gotten wrapped up in like, we have to be, we have to be, I can't remember what the family name is. Oh, Sinclair's. So like, we're Sinclair's, we do this, this, then this because that's our name and we have a legacy. They're playing with like the legacy of this and how it's gone too far, that everybody's just trying to get the money and they're no longer a family. Um, then, uh, but I feel like I, I guess I was just too impatient to like, just get that chunk of the story me in episodes, so I skipped. And just read that little bit then, I mean, they kind of go back over everything anyway, a little bit to like reiterate, but I think I watched all of the episodes, it would've even hit me even harder for that ending. Um, but I, it still hit me hard. So I think that was a really good ending. Um, but yeah.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Are you at all tempted to go back now and re-watch those episodes?
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:A little bit. I'm thinking of doing that. Um, but I might not, but a little tempted.'cause I basically got what happened in those little chunks at the end. So, but
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:What would you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I a seven just because of how. Like guttural, it made, make it that ending bit. Um, but like I'm torn in between like it's good or, and it's, eh, so that's why it's a seven. It might go down, but just a seven.'cause it really got me in the fields at the end and I did not think it would.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Fair enough.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:So I think it was good writing for the end at least. I was just so mad at the characters at the beginning. I was like, they're trash. But actually they're very well written characters. They are terrible people, but they're very well written
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Well written. Very well written. Terrible people.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Yes, exactly. But I
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Nice.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:it did after like. Watching it, it did make me like rethink some things and like think about what I was doing. So, I mean, I think it's, I suggest watching the first one, reading about the middle half, watching the last episode. So.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Sounds like they could have done some editing.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Yeah, I think so. It was a book that they adapted into a TV show, so I do like, I think they probably put everything in the book in that series. So, but yeah, it was pretty good. Alright, well with that, let's go to our shared topics. Um, let's do SC first. We have two shared topics this week. All right. Um, I think I'm gonna, I'm gonna tell my thoughts on this because really enjoyed this movie. Um, I don't think, there wasn't a joke that I didn't at least like do a little ad in this movie. was just. I had a good time throughout all of this movie and like, I started writing down at the very beginning, like things that made me laugh and then I was like, I'm gonna just write the script of this movie down. So, uh, but some of the ones that like got me were, uh, like when he's like, I think there's the world's smallest Walmart back here he was a kid. Um. And then when they like get up into the spaceship and he is like, oh my gosh, do you know where we are? And he's like, Ikea. Um, and then when they're like, oh, danger's calling, he's like, oh, hello. Danger. Can you take my name and number off your call list? Oh, got me. So good. yeah, it was, uh. And then when Scooby, the guy's like telling him his, his sad, tragic backstory and he's like, I lost my dog. And he's like, is he chipped? It was just, it was really funny. I love this. I love this show. yeah, it was just very wholesome. I liked the, um, liked the, the little deeper meaning of like, um. Not like ditching your friends and stuff and like, uh, the power of friendship. yeah. I really enjoyed this. Josh, what are your thoughts on scope?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Well first, why did you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Um, I would say an eight. I really enjoyed it.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Good. Uh, as for me, the reason I requested this as a shared topic is because you're still fairly new to like Scooby-Doo, and we've been kind of introducing you to some of that, and this was not well received. I absolutely love this, but most people were like, this sucks. This is the worst Scooby-Doo movie ever. Blah, blah, blah, whatever. I think it's fantastic. I think the animation is great. Um, I think the jokes are all Scooby do esque. Whether that works for you or not, that's to each person. Um, the story is really good. I. Genuinely really enjoyed it. Like ever since the very beginning of the movie, when they tell you what Shaggy's real name is to the end, I had a great time with it, but as Conlin Iss going to tell you why it's so bad.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Why do
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:A lot of people are Scooby-Doo. It's not good.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:So I think I'm actually gonna surprise you guys this. This time I hate, I'm just kidding. The first time I watched this movie, I hated this movie. I'm gonna be completely honest, this is one of the biggest shifts in a movie that I've ever had ever. I still don't love this movie, but I was, I was not looking forward to watching this again at all. Like zero. I genuinely even debated not watching it and pretending I had watched it for this podcast.'cause I hated this movie when I first watched it. I started watching it and I'm like, this isn't that bad. You know what? That joke was kind of funny. kind liked that. The whole uh, sandwich thing and all of a sudden he pulls out a big chunk of meat and he slicing out the meat. I was like, that is very Scooby Doo. Okay. Huh. This isn't terrible. I still don't like dumb Fred, dumb Fred bugs me and everything and it's in this and I don't like that. I like, I think, I think they've stripped some stuff away from Velma.'cause I like the whole shy, nerdy girl who is just kinda like socially inept. There's a lot of people that are that way that I think could bind to Velma, and it's not a character that's done in very many things very often. Usually you have like the shy, the cute, quirky girl, but that's different than the shy, really smart girl who kind of gets overlooked. Like those are different characters and I like that they used to represent Velma that way, and it's, it's just kind of sad to me that they've developed into, oh, I'm. A very confident smart girl.'cause it makes it so the Daphne Velma dynamic isn't as interesting in my opinion. of the reason why I like the new mystery, what was uh, mystery Incorporated TV show is I feel like they did a good blend of that and actually made both characters develop without taking that aspect away. Where you could relate to a Velma type character and you can relate to DNE type character and they. They both have struggles that are, that are separate. I feel like it kind of makes more the, the characters a little bit more of the same, which I don't love, but I also, I didn't hate it, which is great because I, I was absolutely expecting to be like, oh, why are we watching sc, I hate this movie. Why? And it, the jokes were pretty good. Um. Scooby was, was actually great in this. I thought Scooby did, uh, was very good. The animation is really enjoyable. I thought Falcon was kind of dumb. I didn't really like Falcon very much. Um, but some of the jokes, like some of the jokes that you mentioned specifically, Lauren, I actually, I actually laughed Ikea, I genuinely actually laughed out loud. I didn't remember that. That was, that was a good joke. I as. Very, very pleasantly surprised that I a pretty decent time with this movie. Is it one that I, I feel like I really wanna rewatch? No, but this would be like a, I'm glad I watched that, is crazy to me because I was at like a two. I really did not like this movie I don't know why.'cause it it pretty, pretty, pretty enjoyable movie, honestly.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:So why would you rate it now on a scale of one to 10?
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Um, probably like a 6.8, 6.9, somewhere around there.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Mass. Massive
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:a big, ch big shift. Maybe next time you'll watch it, you'll be with Lauren and I and say it's an eight outta 10.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Maybe, maybe I'll be like, this is actually my new favorite Scooby-Doo movie,
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:No, it's not the best Scooby-Doo movie, but it's a really good one.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I was surprised.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:story. Scooby-Doo. I, I enjoyed that, how they all
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I, my, my favorite part was the very beginning of the movie, very beginning was very charming. I, I really liked it and I
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:My,
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:haunting of the go, the, the h the house where they all come together for the first time they go to the haunted house as kids. It was enjoyable. That
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:my favorite was the transition from the old theme song to the new theme song.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:was cool
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I absolutely loved that. I like, the first time I watched that I was like, it's the old theme. They're doing a new theme song. I, I really liked it.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I liked that too.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:That was good.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:just to, uh, go off about the animation too, I really liked how like Flowy Shaggy was, um, with his character. He was very like floppy, but it made sense for Shaggy. And I was like, I was like, there was so much. Attention and love put into that animation, but, alright.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:Yeah.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:we, and then you rated it as an eight too, right, Josh?
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Oh yeah.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Cool. Cool. All right. And then for our last, a man on the inside, um, COLS, get your thoughts first.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I get another thing that I gotta be positive.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Yay.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I actually had a, I had a really good time with this show. Um, like I finally gotta to finish it. I think the acting's really enjoyable. Uh, are there times where you probably could edit it down? Yeah, if I'm being technical, but I also actually didn't really care. I just kind of enjoyed all the characters. For me. I liked hanging out with these people. I really liked hanging out with the main guy. Um. is a story that could have easily been super cringe, like super cringe, it wasn't for me. I just, I genuinely had a good time. I liked the mystery aspect of it. I liked this old guy who's kind of been lost in his life. Um, the, the, the show of having a purpose in your life and how, how impactful it can really be. It is, it is just a good time. It's just a wholesome good time show for me.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:already just.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Uh, this is the saddest funny show I've ever watched. Uh, like I was laughing and chuckling in every single episode of this show. And the, like, second half of the show, it was also just like so depressing and sad about dementia and death and like all of these things. I was like, I feel so sad. Oh, there's a joke. Ha ha. It's sad again. Um, very well made. I thoroughly enjoyed it. They set it up for season two. I don't think a season two would work. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:could agree.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I think a season two would be very much like, okay, been there, done that now. Um, so I, I hope that they don't, but like, as it stands right now, this is a very good show. I'm very hap happy I watched it. Uh, it will be some time, but I probably will rewatch it again.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I am glad I suggested it. Um, yeah, I, when I first watched this, I was like, this was kind of like during my time of like, I'll watch whatever's on Netflix so that least I'm not alone with my thoughts. And, uh, I found this and I was like. Pleasantly surprised that it just wasn't another garbage thing for me to pass the time. And I was like, wow, actually that was really good. Um, and it also, like, it was the same time that I was reading a friend's book that he also was kind of putting the. need to talk to like your grandparents. And like, they're like, they have stories too. And like there's something that I've been, um, told by like my therapists and by, um, people in homes where they're like, it's loneliness that kills. Like as soon as people don't have like visitors at like these, um, uh, these care centers, they go quick. And it just, yeah, like Josh said, I would laugh and then, oh, get all sad. And like, it's made me like rekindle my relationship with my grandpa as well because I'm, it makes me really sad when I go and I visit him. Other people will hear that like, I'm at my grandpa's house, and so they're like, oh, we wanna visit Lauren. And I'm like, no, I'm visiting my grandpa. This is not you visiting me time. I'm visiting my grandpa. And so I was really glad the other day that I was able to like take my grandpa to go watch Mission Impossible and like go out to eat. And so I was like, Hey, you know what? Let's do this every month. Let's go out and do something and go out to eat. Um,'cause yeah, it's uh, it's a sad reality that I feel like a lot of people forget their grandparents, especially when they get put in homes. Um, and so like with. friend's book. And with this, I actually started like looking up, uh, retirement homes near me just to like go visit people that I don't know.'cause I'm like, I, uh, yeah. Anyway, so that's how it's like affected me. But I think that this is like, I do love the mystery of this show. I do love the actors. I do like how it gets you involved with all of the. All of the characters, and it's not, it doesn't forget about any of'em. Um, so yeah.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I, I wanna jump in with that and be like, it was also amazing for me. Um, I know somebody who used to work at an old folks home. And she would just talk about like how hard it was to like lose people all of the time or be people's only interaction with some of the people all the time. And the representation of like also the staff side of things and like how hard it hit Rosa and all of those things was really cool for me to see.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I agree. That was really, really well done.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Yeah, very well written, very well. Um, did we rate this at all? I would say 8.5 for me.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:I would actually give it a two.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:I am a little lower to 7.5, but
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:okay.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:very, very good.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:Did you say you'd give it an 8.52 like as as well? Is
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:No,
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:said?
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:a a as well is what I meant, not
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:No, no. He's like my.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:have to barely. 8.52.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:I only heard two and I was like, what?
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:8.52. Rounded down HA two a 0.5. Now it's very, it, it is very enjoyable and every, there's nothing I really thought was crazy negative about the show. I just liked it.
lauren-_5_07-16-2025_195228:All right. Well, that's our episode everybody. Make sure to hug your grandparents tight and, uh. We'll see you next week.
konlin-gappmayer_5_07-16-2025_195229:See you guys. Bye.
josh-dietrich_5_07-16-2025_155230:Me.
