
Onscreen Offscreen
Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
Onscreen Offscreen
I Want to eat your Pancreas
I Want to Eat Your Pancreas
Better Off Dead, Peaky Blinders, War Horse, RDR2
00:00 - Better off Dead
07:44 - Peaky Blinders
12:58 - Warhorse
20:37 - RDR2
26:59 - I Want to Eat Your Pancreas
Hey everybody. It's onscreen offscreen with Josh, Colin, and myself. We talk about stuff that we've seen throughout the week and how what we watch influences our life and what, how our life influences what we watch. Um, so maybe I'll just like run into this with, uh, better off dead con
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:So I wrote the strangest mixed bag of a movie I have ever seen, I mean that most of the time comedies. They're like a specific type of humor they're going for, and they stick with that humor. And if that humor works for you, the movie works for you. And if humor doesn't work for you, it doesn't work for you. Like, I hate Nacho Libre and Napoleon Dynamite. I hate those movies. I think they're awful. Um,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:You're wrong.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:has the one joke where the poop gets thrown in his face. That does make me laugh. the only one. Napoleon has nothing and that movie can burn in hell. This movie is like, they didn't know which comedy they were going for. And there's times where I laughed a lot at this movie and there are times where I'm like, what in the hell? So there's the bacon part. The bacon part. You were talking about being funny. The bacon part is not funny. That is cringey as hell. So cringy. But then you have the I want my$2. That is hilarious. So good. I genuinely love it and he is like at the very end he's riding off the cliff. I want my$2. I want my two do. I thought it was so funny. you have the Asian guys that pull up next to him and he is like on the Asian announcer voices. Or the, the announcer voices.'cause he learned English by listening to sports broadcasters. It was like two people, one car. It's awesome. Like really, really funny. But then you have also all the cringey stuff with the next door neighbor and
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I feel like, I feel like this movie inspired, um, what's her name? The girl who wrote Harry Potter.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:JK
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:JK Row.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Rowling to make Harry Potter's family.'cause it is freaking remarkably similar to Harry Potter's family. And I think that there is a stolen credit that needs to be made for this movie for Harry Potter.'cause it is ridiculously similar anyway. Um, most of that super, super cringe. But then
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:I agree.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:have the romance between the uh, French girl and our main character I thought was really willy. and like very well done and super enjoyable. like I have no, I have no idea how to rate this movie. I don't know, because I literally would go from what the crap, why is there like a dancing burger? Animated weird. What what the, what the hell is this? To going and laughing. And I genuinely like, would feel bad that I was laughing at this movie that is full of stuff that is bad. I don't get it. I genuinely do not understand this movie, this movie. Um, and he like, he backs through the back of the garage door and I was like, that was funny. I, I don't know how to rate this movie. I think the acting at times is really good and at times is bad. Like it is like they got multiple directors and multiple writers and like, we're gonna have you write this scene and this section of the movie, and then. We're, we're not gonna have you read the script, like, you know, genuinely what's supposed to happen, but we're not gonna have you read the script and then you're gonna do this next part of the movie. And I like these directors and these writers, and I don't like these directors and these writers, and I, I don't get it. I, I don't, I don't know what writing to give this movie. I don't know.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:I think the reason why I like this movie is because it's so chaotic and you really just don't have to.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:It's wild and I hate the friend, but the friend also has, uh, moment at the very end when he is, uh, trying to like push, he's gonna push the friend off. He's gonna push the main guy off the hill where he says something. I can't even remember what it was, but it genuinely made me laugh. And I was like, I've hated you this entire movie and you made me laugh. What the hell is this movie?
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Is that when he is telling him how to ski and giving him a tip on how to ski,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:So
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:goes straight down that way. And if something gets in your turn,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:That was funny. I liked
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:that's whenever I'm teaching somebody to ski. That's what I say.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Yeah, that was, that was really good. I genuinely laughed, but then the rest of the movie I was like, I hate you. I hate you so much.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Uh, there is like a lot of dark comedy too in this show. I was wondering if you, if that was your cup of tea or not, because I think those part are hilarious.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:of those work worked for me really, really well, honestly,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:and then there's one, and I'm gonna get the quote wrong, but when somebody like comes to the door and he's like trying to explain that they're like in a crisis and he is like something about. grandma cra crashed a bus full of penguins. So it's kind of, he is kind of in a, a family crisis right now or something like that, trying to make up some excuse so that somebody doesn't come into the house.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:it's a$2 guy.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:It's a$2 kid.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I want my$2.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:And he just pops up randomly everywhere, which I think is hilarious.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:The car thing surprised me where he is on top of the car and I thought it was so funny. He is like just pounding on top of the car. I want my$2. I love the$2 kid. Genuinely loved him.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:the scenes with the$2 kid.'cause I think it was great. It was great. But yeah, I, I, I don't. I wanna simultaneously give this movie an eight and a two.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:So what are you actually gonna give it?
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I don't, I
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:You have to decide. You have to give it a rating. It's the law.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:It's the law.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:um,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:the cops right now. If you don't.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I'll average up because I, I, I would watch this definitely over Black Panther. I guess, I guess I'm giving it a six. I don't, I don't, I don't know how to read this movie.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:glad I confused you so hard.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I, there's no other comedy where I'm like, I, I can't, I can't think of another movie that is so bipolar and how much I liked and
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Well see.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I don't know. Hardest. This is the hardest movie to give a rating to that I've ever watched easily. Like Monty Python has some dumb stuff, but I was never like, I hate this. There's just parts where I'm like, eh. It's kind of dumb along with parts that I think are golden and extremely funny. This had parts where I like actively was like, this is terrible with stuff. And I'm like, this is genius. I don't, I don't know.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:All right, well, since we're going with a six, I guess we'll go on to, uh, Josh, your topic. I wanna hear about Peaky Blinders, episode one.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:Yeah, so this is the one that was recommended to me because of Mob Land and searching online. Everybody's like, mob land is not as good as Peaky Blinders, but. It's the next best thing kind of comments. And that's what I brought up. And Conlin was like, yeah, watch Peaky Blinders. It's great. I'm only the first episode in, so I really cannot judge the show as a whole right now. Mob Bland is way better. Uh, if I just open one episode to one episode, um, I was way more invested in Mob Land right off the bat. However, I am biased because I love, love, love. Um, what's his name? Plays by name?
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Hardy
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:Tom Hardy.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:hard.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:I know.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:Not yet. He's not in the first episode.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:it
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:It, I, it's not a bad show. It, it's not a bad show. Um, I really liked the introduction to our main character. He rides in on that black horse. I thought that was really, really cool. I also think that they just spent way too much time waiting for the girl to blow the red stuff on the horse. Like you sit there for like 45 seconds and this, it's. And nothing is happening. And I'm like, you know, this is a show, right? Like,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Entertain me.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:we've got a limited amount of time here and you're spending almost a minute on this. Um, it's interesting, um, the characters are all well thought out. Um. Uh, I haven't caught anything that's like, okay, this is clearly just like a side character with no real personality. Um, every character's doing a really great job. Um, the accents are hit and miss. I think some people do the Yeah. Industrial revolution thing really well. Um, I think some of the side characters are overdoing it. But it's not so jarring. It's more like
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Could be better.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:you could, you could not force that quite as much and I think you'd do a better job. Um, but yeah, that's it. That's all I really have to say. At this point. It's, it's pretty good. If I had to compare, just like the first episode to first episode, mod Blend is just much more efficient and handles my A DHD better, so I think. My land is better.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:I, I've watched the first half of season one of Mob Land so far, and I think it starts off a little bit, I think it starts off better too.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:would agree with that,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:they're both very good shows.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:I was just realizing that I was playing Spirit Fair while I was watching this series. then I got into it and put down Spirit Fair after a while. So that's probably why I don't remember the, the hand thing that you were talking about, but I do really like the opening song that they used for it. For the, mm-hmm.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:you what Mob land's music is. This one's very distinctive. It's very, very good.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Mm-hmm. I, and I feel like sometimes if a movie has really good music, I can forgive almost, almost anything in.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:I have the opposite. Music doesn't forgive anything for me. Look at Interstellar. My movie sucks, but it's got a great score. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Just highlights something that's already good.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:yeah. Uh, so yeah, I'm interested, uh. Right now, I would give it like a seven out of 10. Uh, it's a, it's a show that it's like, okay, yeah, I'm gonna watch it. Don't think I'll ever rewatch it. At this point though. If it picks up and gets better, that could obviously change. But, um, as for just like the first episode, that's where I'm at with it.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Enough. Enough.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:All right.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:do think that. I, I, I mean, you've only watched your first episode, so it's hard to compare from what I've seen so far. Tom Hardy is not as good. Like he, Tom Hardy is great in this show, and, and the other one is, is he's really, really good. But what's his name in Peaky Blinders is freaking phenomenal, like so damn good.
joshua-dietrich_2_07-23-2025_132711:So far I am. They're the same.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Killian Murphy.
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:Killian Murphy. Yes, Killian Murphy is. Excellent in that show.
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_2_07-23-2025_172707:For real. Like he deserves all the credit he's gotten. He's excellent. Anyway,
lauren_2_07-23-2025_172709:I agree. All right. Uh, with all that then we'll go to my topic. I watched Warhorse. it has, I don't know if this is one that like a lot of people have seen. Um, I just remember, uh, I worked at the theater in my small town. It's a very small theater and it's the only thing you could do in my small town of like a thousand people. So, and it was only a thousand people in the summer, so that was when we had more people in town. Um, we had like warhorse and I remember everybody like going to it and we were all obsessed. Uh, but when I talk to other people about this movie, a lot of people I feel like haven't seen it. So I'll kind of. Oh really? That's a good one. Uh, it actually has a pretty star-studded cast as well. It has, I think they actually were in this before they got big. Um, it has, um, oh. Who's Dr. Strange bumper Catch whoever. Benedict Comfort patch. There we go. Um, uh, Tom Hiddleston. Uh, but it, it starts out with like this boy in the countryside and it's talking about World War I, uh, and it starts out with this boy in the countryside who raises this horse, but then World War I happens and they have to like sell the horse off because they're. Their farm isn't doing well. so it follows the horse in this journey of like going out and he's in the cavalry and, uh, the, the soldier that bought the horse like takes really good care. And as Tom Hiddleston is taking really good care of the horse, he doesn't make it. The horse goes on. Um, I think at this point, like the horse ends up on another farm, and like this little girl starts like taking care of the horse, but then. Um, troops move in and take, take the horses into, uh, to start working. It was like pulling, I can't remember what it was. They're like made'em work horses and they would go through horses really quickly and it's like really interesting of like, I didn't realize like back in the day it's. horsepower that they had to use to get stuff done. Uh,'cause they didn't have like all this machinery and stuff. And so like horses were, uh, what's that called? Uh, a resource and like a dwindling resource in World War One. Uh, but then of course, this horse gets, gets free and ends up in no man's land. And there's like these two soldiers, one on each side. And they're like, they see the, the horse and they, they're both like, we want the horse. they throw up like the white flags and they go out in there, they free the horse. Um, but uh, and they end up tossing like a coin for the horse.'cause they're like, well we both freed it like we both want this horse. And then it ends up going to be, um, back with this British soldier. Uh. you find out that the boy who had to like sell his horse is one of the people in the trenches. And like the horse was hurt so bad that they were gonna put it down, but then the boy like finds this horse and they get like reunited and they get to go back to their farm and everything's all hunky dory. But, uh, yeah, I really like this. Um. It has like a lot of beautiful scenes in this, like the cinematography of this movie is really good and I really liked how they like everything together, like the cuts and things. Um,'cause it's. It, it's interesting working with animals in, uh, cinema because there's like a line of like having so much, uh, budget to put CGI in for animals and then having them trained and things. I feel like this one was mostly, this horse was just trained. I didn't look that up, but I should because was really, it was a really, um, pretty movie. really, um, let's see. Yeah, it like, I, I just kind of the same thing with pax.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I love when shows or like books show war through different perspectives, um, instead of like the one that you're used to. Uh, I'm just a fan of seeing different perspectives of things that you feel like you have a, a strong hold on or belief of. And then people like, oh, we'll take it from this. Point of view or whatever, and then you're like, oh my gosh, I never thought of it that way. Because like you only really see the world through your own view. So I love seeing perspectives from seeing things from different perspectives. And so, yeah, I think I'd probably give this movie a seven'cause I'm not like, I'm not super into war movies. But this, it was like really, I had like goosebumps a couple of times in this, this movie, and the cinematography was great. I mean, can't go wrong with Tom Hailstone, so, so.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Nice. I like it. That's awesome. Um, do you have a favorite horse movie? We've been talking about horse movies more than I thought we would talk about horse movies. have a favorite horse movie? I, Josh, I made fun of his shirt, but now I feel like his shirt is perfect for this episode, the series of episodes, horse movies and like Josh's. Next topic, freaking game with horses. Um, what do you have a favorite horse movie?
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Um, it would probably be spirit, which I talked about last.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Okay. And I'm just looking in the notes. We're not gonna say anything yet, but for next episode, she has another horse movie. She was on a horse movie kick this week.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:what you're talking about.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I don't either. We'll find out later. Big mystery. Woo. Um. Cool. Okay. Spirit Spirit's a good one. Spirit is a solid freaking horse movie. I haven't seen that many horse movies. I should watch more. I was gonna say, if you like war, if you like movies from different perspectives or books, you should absolutely read The Poppy War. Absolutely. For sure. It is. a fantasy book, but it's written from an Asian perspective and with Asian heritage and it is fantastic. I am not gonna say it's. The lightest book you ever read, but it's very, very, very, very good. Um, anyway, keep going. What, what's, what's next on the horse agenda? What, what, what else you got?
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:yeah. Josh, what's next on our.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Uh, so I booted back into Red Dead Redemption two because. After last week, uh, the overrated, underrated stuff. I, this one was on my mind a lot'cause I really wanted to put it in my overrated list'cause people think this is the greatest thing ever. Um, and they talk about it being one of the most beautiful games ever. And I don't even think it's a top 10 most beautiful game. Maybe not even like a top 50. Um. I really don't see anything special, uh, graphically. Um, I don't think the story is that great. Um, I think you spend way too much time wandering around. I think it's way too easy to have your horse killed and you have to walk to the next town. Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:real shame of the of it. That's why he doesn't let a game, because the horses die. The horses die.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:well, like I was. Doing a mission right and it's way out in butt town, nowhere. And I get off my horse like half a mile out and I have to walk in, and then my horse charged in and got shot. And so I had to walk all the way back to the town. I'm like, this is stupid. However, that being said, uh, the set pieces with it. And the like. Scripted events are exceptional. You get the, the music and you're on a horse and you're charging up the hill and you're shooting all the bandits, or, uh, you're assaulting the, um, plantation mansion, uh, with the fog and you're strolling in on your horses as a group, and you'll light your torches and you're just slowly going. The scripted parts are so good that I'm like, I can't say it's overrated because like even I am like, this is amazing. And as we talked in our last episode, I don't really like Western setting very much, uh, but this is at times very, very good.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Uh, it's funny'cause I actually was able to talk with one of the people who, um, he got hired by rockstar, which is the people who did the animation and it was funny'cause he got hired on by them'cause he. He specifically said he loved the animation of like, um, when the guy comes into the saloon doors and he like throws it open and he's like, I just love that scene so much. And the person who was interviewing him had animated that scene and he's like, you're hired.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That's very cool.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:yeah, it's kind of funny.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:The animation is great. Uh. The attention to detail in this game is phenomenal. I don't think anybody can argue that like they do so many small little things.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:They do.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Um, I watched a TikTok and it was like there's not just an animation of a guy chopping wood infinitely. He like grabs wood, takes it over to the chopping station, chops the wood, bundles it together and takes it over to the fire and literally sees it stack. It's like the, that level of detail is incredible.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:The problem is, I don't think this game is worth spending the time to watch that. So the, to the people who figured it out, like, great for you. Like, that's really, really cool. It's just,
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:on right now to watch that guy chop wood
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I, Lauren, honestly, I bet you would love this game.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:probably.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:love it. You can own horses and you can ride'em around and you can build your camp and you can design it and. I'm sure that there are mods that will let you build a house and all of the things. Uh, I still haven't beat the game. I don't know if I ever will, just because I think the in-between is not very good.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:long. It's just a very big game. If it was, if it was sh, it would be better. If it was shorter. If it was more linear, I would actually like it better. But the thing
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:love about it is the world and how realistic it feels. But the world is just big and long.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:That
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Okay, I'm gonna get on a horse and I'm gonna ride it for 20 minutes to the next town over.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:like my heaven.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:And it doesn't even do the Witcher thing where you can like, have it auto do it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I wish you did that so bad.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah. It, it will stay. You can have it auto, but if there's like a turn, it won't take the turn.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Mm,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:So it's close, but it's not the same.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:follow the path and it will run along path,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:nice.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:the wild. Does that. I'll follow the path.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Mm-hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:it's, it's nice. It should be in every game. Every
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Every open world game. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Should have that sure. It's a just a good thing.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:All right, so did you rate this already, Josh? I.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I would've given it like. A 6.5 out of 10.'cause I really hate the in-between scripted moments. I'll bump it up to a seven and a half just because like the scripted moments really are amazing.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That's a big bump.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:A point.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Oh boy.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That's a big bump.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:could have been a half.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yeah.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:right. Sogo, that's. Okay. Yeah. So onto our shared topic, uh, I want to eat your pancreas. Uh, Josh, what were your thoughts?
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Another one for the record that I was not a part of picking. We can thank Lin for choosing this specific topic.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I would love to know why Colum picked this topic. I'm sure we'll hear, uh, this is just a big old, sad hour and a half, hour and 45, whatever it is, that is just gosh darn depressing the entire way through. Uh. If you are in a mood where you're like, I just wanna feel sad and you don't wanna watch a walk to remember or fall in our stars, this is a great option for you. But I was not expecting sad, so I turned it on and I was like, wow, this is a bummer. That's what I have to say about this movie. I didn't look into it. I had no idea what to expect. Uh, the entire thing is just sad.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:It was sold to us as a cute love story. We were told that this
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It is not a cute love story. It is a bummer. Um. It's probably better than faulting our stars by a little bit. It's not as good as walk to remember.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I need to watch that. I haven't seen that one.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Well, if you're in the mood, just be bumed out. It's a bummer. Uh, the differences like. There's good positive messaging to walk, uh, to the other two movies, walk to Remember and Fault on our Stars. They try and do more than just bum you out the entire time. Um, there's actual like character growth and change and
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:mean, the
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:from being like depressed and sad and not caring about anything to
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:you're being depressed and sad and grief stricken. Oh boy.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:But he's deciding to try with his life and make a better life and all that good stuff.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:and sad to being a loner and.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Exactly. Uh, like I'd have to see more to see, say he actually changed his
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That's
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:thinking or way of life. Like when somebody dies, you did, you do some crazy stuff, but it doesn't mean you changed. He tries one thing.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:He changes before she dies.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:No,
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:does start
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yes. He, he, he starts talking to other people and connecting and trying to live life. And then he thinks he has some more time with her and he literally invites her to what? whatever it was, I don't remember what she, it's like super, a restaurant or something and he never, she never comes to the restaurant and he sees on the pay on the news that somebody's been stabbed and you figure out that it's her, which by the way is a fantastic scene because they don't say it's her. They just say somebody was stabbed and he. Goes out, depressed and then collapses on the stairway, which was very, very human and very, very real. I'm just gonna go into my, my review, Lauren, since we're already doing this.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:go.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Um, I heard that this was one of the greatest romances of all time with anime, which I don't know if I would call it that to be completely honest.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Because it's not that.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I, I didn't know it was the set either. I didn't know.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:No. But even talking about great anime romances, right? Like both of you love your name and weathering with you, and how's moving castles and like.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I don't like that one,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:This one is not even close to any of those.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:It's very, very, very different for sure. Yes, absolutely. It was not what I expected either.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:And hold on.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:yes.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It's not even a romance. That's kind of the point. They're both like, I like them but not romantically.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yeah, not a romance. Romance at all. So it shouldn't be rated as one of the best romances'cause it's not really romance. I agree with all of that completely. Um, I also think I would've liked the Japanese voice better than I liked this version.'cause I don't think the English translators honestly do that good of a job. Especially with the main girl. There were times where the main girl was like very anime girl and bugged me to be honest,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:like,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I'm on the opposite side. I think the dub was the only way to watch it. By the way. I watched half of it in Japanese and half of it in English.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:oh, I didn't.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:anyway, the animation I think is pretty solid. I think the first half is kind of slow. To be honest, think I would've maybe liked this better if I hadn't watched Yli in April already, which has kind of a similar idea of a plot, but is just way, way, way, way, way, way, way, way better. Um, so parts of this movie that work for me. I do con like the characters. I think the animation is good. I think the music is actually quite good. Um. I like the fact that she dies in a kind of completely outta nowhere way. I think the second half of the movie is significantly better than the first, but your lie in April exists and it's so much better than this. Like so much better. Um. Will I ever watch this again? No, because I would rather just watch your lie in April again for the fourth time.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:You are Lion. April's like a whole show though.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:It's true. Like if this is a compact
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:This is a movie.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:there's That's fair. That is fair. But yeah, I don't know.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:As for her dying in an unexpected way. I saw that coming.'cause that's what all of these movies do,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Most of them have them still die from cancer. Oh, and from your topic earlier,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:uh, fall on our stars.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:watch your, I guess it's true. Uh, following your stars. I was gonna say, I don't like that movie at all. Not even a little bit. I actively dislike that movie. This is way better than that. Um. A lot to remember is better than this movie. better than this movie. This one is like, uh, 6.5 to me. There's parts of it that are really good, but there's a lot of it that kind of drags. And the part with uh, where she's trying to seduce him and then he grabs her is super cringe.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Uh, I wouldn't say cringe. I think that's the one wrong word. It is very uncomfortable
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:and creepy, but like, I wouldn't say cringe'cause I wasn't like, uh, I was like. Oh, please, please stop this scene. This is, no, please don't do this.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Yeah. That's what my only note that I wrote on here was I hated the prank scene. It wasn't needed.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yeah, I didn't like either. Like, you know, it's not, I'm just blaming him. I don't like either of their reactions in that scene. Like both, both of them are bad.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Yeah,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It's also bad when they go back to it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Like it doesn't help the scene at all. It's like, oh yeah, that scene exists and now it's worse.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Yeah, because like I feel like they were trying to use that scene as like a, they're not romantic. And then I was like, that no, you didn't need that scene. Um, yeah, I, I like. I think'cause they're rev Well I think they're like trying to be like deep about like the, the blossoms or whatever. And I just, it just made me kind of laugh when she was explaining how, know, cherry blossoms bloom in the spring and I was like, what doesn't bloom in the spring? She, she's like, they know exactly when to blossom. And I was like, so does every other plant. They're not special.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Literally the point of the end of the movie is she's like, I thought I was like every other high school student, but really I'm special. And it's not just'cause I was dying. And Lauren, her review is like, you're just ba, you're just a basic bitch.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:It just made me laugh so hard when she was like, trying to be all deep about that cherry blossoms. Um, but, uh, yeah, I like, yeah, I, I, I don't know if I'm like, like I'm not mad that I watched it, but I don't care that I watched it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Did it make you emotional ever at all?
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Um, yeah, it made me pissed off that she got stabbed.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:You weren't bummed out the whole time. The whole thing wasn't just sad and depressing to you.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Um, like the end, the end half was depressing to me. The fir the first half was like. I was so distracted by his jaw because in the animation it was like, it would like stick
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Okay.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:more and then it wouldn't stick out as much. So I like just was like focused, like hyperfocused on his jaw and seeing how much they could move this kid's job. But, uh, so I wa I was distracted the first half, so I wasn't as bummed.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I, I found this movie kind of conf, kind of weird. I don't know if it's a Japanese thing, but like in American romances sometimes you'll have like the brooding guy, right, who's just brooding and the girl has to change him and make him more friendly. But in this one, he's just like a loser who's scrawny and little Would have like, she would have no interest in hanging out with him, but at the end she's like, he was really, really fun. How we didn't see that he was fun at all. He just seems like somebody that would suck to be around uh, with, with your lying in April. Yeah, the guy has kind of a sum, similar personality traits. Like he's a loner. He wants to be away from people, but you can see some traits for why you would want to be around this kid. Why He's interesting him. I'm like. Until he decides that he wants to go and talk to people, he just kind of sucks. So why, why would you wanna be around him? And I've seen other Asian anime type shows where you have this guy who's like the loner guy or whatever, but that's not appealing. So why would you make characters that aren't appealing to your target demographic, which is women who are going to watch a romance or something like this show, like we're, we're, we're talking about it, but that's your target demographic. Why would you do that? I don't, I don't get it. But people love this movie. It's rated very, very highly. I don't, I don't get it.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I think it's just the savior complex.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It's just that she is saving him from himself.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:And that's it.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:And that's it. Just like all of them, right? In fact, in the other ones, the guys are not just brooding, they're like terrible human beings.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That does happen sometimes too.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It's like, but I brought him out of his shell. You're right, you've created more victims. Where in this one, it's like, he's just a kinda like loser guy. I wasn't as bothered by the first half of it as you guys. Uh. To me, it was just like him make, making some complaint or being depressing, which was the giveaway that she was gonna die earlier than expected because the first half was all just felt like, Hey, feel bad for this guy and her. Look how hard she's trying to cheer him up or make, make him laugh or do something witty or whatever. And some of those lines I was even like, you know, that would be funny if we weren't just immediately like depressing comment or depressing comment leading up to it or whatever.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I agree with that, but I also just like have to buy the character. And yes, there's the, there's the. I don't know. She, she's supposed to this pretty, pretty girl and he's this loser who doesn't have a lot of friends all suddenly this pretty, pretty girl is super interested in you and is like the most obvious flirtation, just throwing herself, I'm naked in the shower. I, you are a teenage boy. If you're the most depressed person, I don't care. You're gonna be like pretty girl. Wow. You're a teenage boy and maybe. And maybe there's some exceptions, but the amount of exceptions are just so small. So even in that area scenario, I'm like, I don't believe this. You've got a, a girl who's like, I'm naked in the shower, let's play truth or dare. You're not an IBU soul. Like it is the most obvious thing in the world that this girl's throwing herself at you. What? I, I don't, I
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I will argue with you on that. There's lots of guys who. Just are so depressed that they, even if it does happen, they wouldn't see it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Oh,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:And just like in the show, he thinks maybe she is, but I'm me, so probably not. That happens all the time.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I guess, I guess, yeah, I could see that.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Like I buy him as a character. I just also agree with you that there's not enough redeeming qualities for us to feel bad for him in the end or for me to like. See a reason to root for him throughout.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I would say I did like the thing of like his monologue of saying like how much she meant to him and like how he wants to be more like her, and like he typed it all out and then he's like, I want to eat your pancreas. And then her saying that back to him without like them knowing that like they both had the same meaning for that word. I did really like that part
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That was good.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I hated that part.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:hated it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Oh,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I like that part.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:I was like, this is still just weird. I was happy that they dropped this whole eating people thing at the beginning of the movie, and then they brought it back at the end and I was like, Ugh. Oh my gosh.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I thought it was like a, a cute, quirky way of being like this. I know you.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Inside joke kind of a thing. Yeah,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:No, I get it. I get that. That's what it is.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I like that.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:It's just still about eating people and for me it's kind of a deal breaker. Personally. Personally, I'm okay with it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:All right.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Did we
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:So
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:rate it?
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Conlin gave it a 6.5. Lauren, what did you give it?
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Hmm.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I wanna drop it to a six because I just complained a lot. know. Somewhere around there.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Rounded up to a six. From a 6.5?
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:yeah,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:think I, a.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Okay. Drop it to a six.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:I'm trying to decide if I wanted to watch Black Panther this again. Mm. Okay. 5.5.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Okay. Surprising. I'm the most positive person on this. Uh, I'm giving it a 7.5.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Wow.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:love sad movies. I love faulting our stars. I know it has problems. I know it's not the best. Uh, I love a walk to remember. I would give a walk to remember, like a nine out of 10.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I would give like at 8.5. It's a great movie.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Uh, honestly, like this might be an 8.5 if I wasn't so thrown that it was a sad movie.'cause again, I was not expecting sad movie and I was in a fairly good mood going into it. So I was quite thrown at the just like bummer ness of it. Um. But like I would easily rewatch this over Black Panther A, it's like an hour shorter. B, the animation's really good. C, it's like what we're complaining about is fairly nitpicky and like if you just take it for what it is and enjoy it, I think it's pretty good. It's not the best. It's not the worst.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Felt pretty good.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:say,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:why I was harsh on it was one, it kept buffering a lot for me, so I think I kept getting pulled out of it. having to get back in and I kind of already knew that it was a sad movie. Um, so I wasn't blindsided by that. And I think I kind of didn't like the, um. I think it's this talker that ruin movies like this for me versus is like every, uh, movie that's like this where they have like the terminally ill person who's either very pessimistic or very optimistic. And I was like, she nailed it because there was like a lot of things that this character did that the TikTok did. And I was like, uh, I was like, has she ruined these movies for me?'cause now I'm like thinking back, I'm like. I think, I think watching that TikTok has ruined these movies for me.'cause I think that's why I was so harsh with this movie because I'm not against sad movies, but whatever. This one didn't do any do much for me.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I probably would've been closer to a seven, but I, I really didn't like the hold down scene, kinda like at all. Like, it, it took, it took a chunk from my score, scene for me.
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:That's fair.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:The prank,
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:totally fair.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:prank
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:The, yeah.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Yeah, that also, I would've rated it a lot higher if it didn't have that scene in it.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:I didn't
joshua-dietrich_3_07-23-2025_134506:Yeah, that's totally fair.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:so Josh is our optimistic one this week. That's fantastic.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:That's fantastic. That makes me happy. I, uh, someday will be our optimistic one. I don't know when, but it'll happen.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:let's try to make it this next episode.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:Oh, I'm looking at it and I think that it might be, it might be, let's go.
lauren_3_07-23-2025_174504:Things this week.
konlin-gappmayer_3_07-23-2025_174503:See you guys. Bye.