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Josh Dietrich and Konlin Gappmayer discuss their media consumption, new and old. They discuss the good, the bad, and the impact it has on their lives
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everybody. This is on screen, off screen, the show where I like to talk about our media intake, uh, for the previous week, how it affects us and how what we're watching is impacted by how we're doing. We have all three of us together this week. We've got Conlan who's awesome at being persistent and uh, is an idol of perseverance and Lauren, of course, is the greatest of all time. Lauren, Sam Wise over here. It's freaking awesome. Love having these guys. I am in particular very excited for this episode and I would like to talk about Klan's topic first.'cause this is a movie I still have not watched, even though it's been like nine months and I've been looking forward to it coming out and just still haven't watched this. What do you got?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:So I have bring her back uh, I have watched a lot of horror movies, like a lot, a lot, a lot of horror movies. And it's very, very rare for a horror movie to make me cringe. But there is a part where this demon kid, um, he, he gets possessed throughout the movie and it becomes more and more intense. And this is a spoiler, but he starts hurting himself and he like stabs his arm and cuts it open. But there's a part where he chews on a wooden table and he teeth are like cracking as he's chewing on the table. And it was like, Lauren, you should never watch this movie ever, ever, ever, never watch this movie ever. Um,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Noted.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:were multiple parts where I was like, wow, you guys, you guys did that? And I don't think that this. I don't think this movie's as good. It's not as complete of a film as the other one.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Talk to me.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:to me. Talk to me, I think is a better film. This one, a more complete film. This one has a little, some little plot holes that I'm like, ah, that could have been a little bit better, particularly with the way that it ends. So, Josh, do you, do you care if I spoil it? Do you want me not to? What? Okay. So this mother who is fantastic, she plays, acts so well, like it's, it's crazy. It's by it. Sally Hawkins. Sally Hawkins like deserves an Oscar. She's that good in this movie. She lost her child she makes a deal with this devil to bring back her kid. And the idea behind the movie is this devil can bring back somebody's spirit to a body if they died the same way as the person, as the other person died. So her daughter drowned in their pool in the backyard. And if Sally Hawkins drowns somebody, then this demon can bring back her daughter's spirit into whoever, whoever's drowned. She's been in the foster care system for a really long time. She's a pillar of the community, has a great reputation. Nobody believes that she could be this messed up, but she gets more and more messed up and she gets these two foster kids, an older son and a girl. And he, she, throughout the movie, makes the older son seem like a crazy person. Like more and more psychotic so that he, she, she can separate the two and just have the daughter and then go about her plan of bringing her biological daughter's spirit back. It's kind of a, it's a cool concept. It's pretty well executed. the end of the movie, the daughter, the foster daughter escapes, but Sally Hawkins ends up drowning the foster son. And when she drowns the foster son in a puddle, after she smashes with a car, um, I'm thinking, oh, they're gonna have the daughter's spirit go into the foster son. the daughter's spirit will literally like wake up the, the Sally Hawkins sees all the stuff that she's done. She decides she doesn't wanna live anymore. So she drowns herself at the end of the movie. thought it would've been so poetic if. The mother drowns while the daughter comes back to life. And then you're ended with this like, haunting thing of the daughter. Just wandering around in this boy's soul been horrifying. And the, the ending was right there. It was a slam dunk. But instead we just get the daughter running into the foster, daughter running into the woods, and Sally Hawkins drowning. And it was kinda lackluster and a little disappointing. Um, this movie is still worth a watch. I still think it's pretty good, but where to me is just so rocks solid from beginning to end. This one has a couple little things where I'm like, that could have been better. That could have been better. The pacing about first third of it is a little slow. Um, and I'm gonna give it like, uh, I'll give it a seven. I think I'll give it a seven. At seven.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Cool. Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Does that.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh, does that work?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Josh?
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh, I'm still interested in watching it. Um, horror is very hard to do. Um, I was just talking to Lauren about this before we started. I view horror kind of like I view rap music. Uh, 99% of it is utter crap. Um, most of it sucks and, but there are some very specific things that hit for some people and not others. So there are some rap music that works for me. Uh, talk to me was so good and I think it falls under that same issue where there's some potholes and it's not really solid all the way through. Um, but it, it was their like first real shot going from YouTube to like actual screen, uh. So I would've loved to hear that, hey, they, they're still not perfect. They're still not there, but they took the next step. That would've been better. Um, but it sounds like they made more, probably not quite as good, but still worth seeing. So that's worth it to me.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:It's still a good movie. Um, and it's, I was surprised at how different it is from Talk To me. It feels like a, doesn't feel like the same directors directed. Like it feels completely different to me other than I guess it does with possession, but it's a slow burn type movie. It's just different.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:yeah, I'm still super interested. I don't know when I'll watch it, um, but I am interested to see it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Cool. And Lauren don't watch it.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I had no plans to, I surprisingly, I've had a lot of my friends want me to watch this movie, and I'm like, no.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:a lot of movies that I'd be like, Lauren, just watch it. Not a big deal. This one we tried to do for our shared topic, for anybody who's listening. And I'm like, actually glad Lauren didn't push against watching this there are parts of this where I'm like, I, I don't even know if I wanna watch that.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, yeah. It's, I've seen the trailer for talk to me and like there are some things in, some horror. That I'm like, it's intriguing until they get into like the, the meat of it. And then I'm like, okay, now I'm done watching. Like if somebody could just tell me what happens, I'll be fine
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's totally fair. That's totally fair. Uh, talk to me is one that I think, I think you probably could watch. Honestly. You just can't do possession. No possession. Okay. It's creepy. It's a creepy possession. It's not
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I I believe in like, that invites like a certain type of tone and spirit into I'm watching it. And so I do not mess with that stuff. Even if it's in a movie. I just don't mess with it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:totally fair. This one is creepier. Like if you wanna rate it on creep factory, you get a higher rating. It's a creepier movie. At least it was
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I don't like creepy. I just, I don't give, I, I don't understand. Um, like I get that some people like that and want to be creeped out. I don't understand wanting to be creeped out and like wanting to feel that
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:it's not for
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I love it so much. It's nice and dark outside and you're like, is there someone in my front yard? Is there someone in that closet? And you're just like paranoid. I don't know why, but I love that feeling.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:okay.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I know. It's weird. It's weird, but I like it. Josh doesn't feel that ever. He's just like, everything spooky is nonsense garbage.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Oh, I know that it's made up for a movie. I sort of agree with Lauren that it invites a energy. I just think that it's psychological. I don't think it's physical. Um, so we're all about the podcast and how it impacts us, and that impacts Lauren in a negative way. So I fully support not doing it,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:but for me personally, I'm like, and I, I believe in possession. I believe it's a real thing as I don't think that watching a movie is going to make me. Any more likely to be possessed. So, um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Do
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:it doesn't.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um, do I think that watching something would make you possessed?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:you more likely to be possessed?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um, I don't know. Um, I do think that like, it sets the tone for, Like, I don't know, it's just, it sets a tone that I don't like,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay. That's fair.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:but I don't necessarily think that it's like you were 98% chance of not being possessed, but after you watched that know you're 80% chance of being. I don't think that that's true. You keep watching these, your chances. I dunno, I don't, I don't think that there's direct correlation
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:horror movies on how likely they're to possess
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:for you to get after you finish this one. 70%.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Conjuring two, you're done. Sorry, game over
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Might as well go straight to hell. You're just like,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Make sure you have,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:immediately after watching this movie.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:watch, make sure that your theater is close to, uh, chapel.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:We'll have a priest in the hall after you relieve the
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:No one is allowed to leave until they have gotten their exorcism, their complimentary exorcism.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:uh, that's funny.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Hey, I've gotta be honest. If that really happened with a movie, I would be more interested in going to the theater
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:a good marketing idea. Like that's crazy.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Oh,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:free exorcism with purchase of movie ticket.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Oh. be like, okay, we're not seeing each other for at least like after you've been exercised three times. It's like back in COVID times when people are like, no, you can't come over unless you have your shots. I'm like, you can't come over unless you've had your exercise.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That our little topic right now is gonna go so well for me on our third episode.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Sounds good. Okay, I'm gonna move on though, uh,'cause I'm very excited for this topic.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Mm-hmm.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:the show is an anime, it's called Roro. Um, this came up to me, my attention, uh, on TikTok. I, it was a little, these are animes with no bad episodes. Um, and it listed like full metal brotherhood, solo leveling. Uh, a couple of others and, and this one, um, I don't know if you've watched any of it, Kamlan. I know, you know, I was gonna talk about it. Uh, but the basic premise is a mother is praying to a goddess, uh, for her baby to be healthy. A father is praying to the demon gods, um, for prosperity of his lands. Um, he was in a very poor, he was given poor lands. They couldn't grow anything. And he said, take anything from me, just make my land prosperous. Um, and in doing so, the demons decide that they're going to feed on the child as payment, um, in the mother's womb. But because the mother was praying to the goddess, um, the baby's head was saved because. Th the goddess lost her head. She gave her head in place of the baby's head. Um, so this baby is born and somehow survives, but is, has no arms, has no legs, is deaf, can't taste, can't smell, can't hear everything. Um, and so the father absolutely horrified by the site, sends it away, and the mother is told to shut up and deal with it and make another son so that the prosperous lands can have a, um, air. Um, this, um, woodworker who builds prosthetics, finds the baby and raises him. Um, and we fast forward to where the show mainly takes place. Um, like I said, he's got prosthetic arms and legs. The forearms like pull off to make katanas. He's got katana like blades shoved through his arm. Um. And he goes and he figures out that if he kills a demon that ate one of his body parts, he would get that body part back.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's cool.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Um, and his ability, um, to make up for all of his senses being gone is he's able to see people's auras. Um, so he can't see you physically, but he can tell that like, Lauren has such a great pure aura, or that's just a demon in disguise kind of a thing.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:hmm.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:And he runs into this orphan who's 11 or 13 named Dero. Um, and they kind of form this like pseudo found family thing where Roro is his mouth and eyes and our main character is now. The, the younger kids protector and they form this like, complete bond. And there's a whole bunch of like, what does it mean? You know, as he's killing demons, he becomes more bloodstained, taking him closer to becoming a demon himself. Um, there's a lot of talk about how if you kill a demon, another one's gonna come back up in its place. Um, and there's a lot of talk about how removing demons doesn't actually make the world that much better because of the imperfections of humanity. Um, so there's all these different layers to it. Um, and now I'm gonna say something completely crazy. I don't think Conlin is going to agree with this point at all. Um, even if you do watch it, I don't think you'll agree, but I like this better than solo leveling. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Wow.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I don't think it's critically better. I don't think you'll think it's better. Uh, the only thing that I would say is like analytically better than solo leveling is the theme song. And I also think that that's just my personal preference. Um, it deals with themes of family biology, cost of war, sacrifice. What is humanity? Sometimes fighting evil is a py victory. The cost what and what cost is worth giving. It deals with good and good of the few versus the good of the many. It addresses literally everything. Um, I, or sorry, I love how it addresses everything. It does all of this in 24, 20 minute episodes. I will watch this again. It's a 10 out of 10 to be.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Wow.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh, this show is absolutely brilliant. Um, I, I don't have any criticisms of it all at all. It made me laugh. It made me hyper emotional. Um, the, the stories that they tell in such a short period of time. It's not like Avatar where I say it's, you know, anyone can watch it'cause it is a little bit more mature. Um, I would say that about solo leveling too. Like, hey, literally, like anybody can enjoy solo leveling. Uh, this one just hits those hard, hard truths a little bit more hard for me. Um, I just, I absolutely loved it. It was fantastic. I, I got out of my watching an anime mood and watched this anyway, and still loved it. That's how great this was for me. So,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay. Hmm. And it's, it's done,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:yeah. Yeah,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Just one season.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:just one season.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I will try this. I, uh, like shorter anime a
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Me too. I'm all about the shorter anime. Like I said, I don't think you're gonna come out of it and say it's better. That so lovely. I would be shocked if you said that. Um, but for me it was
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's really cool, man. Straight up. That's really cool. I am interested.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:know if you'd like it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:thing.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I think you'd really like the found family stuff that happens. I think you would hate a lot of the demon stuff that happens. So, um, I don't know.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Well, it's interesting'cause like I am, I've been looking up like pictures of it and it like, it looks very well animated.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:It is. The animation is great. Yeah. Like I said, he's got these katanas shoved through his elbow'cause he, his arms from here down are gone. And like the fighting is just so well choreographed. Uh, his parents do have a second son, so there is a confrontation between the biology of that and the, uh, you know, will the other son choose the land over the, or the need of the mini versus the needs of him and kind of, it's, there's a lot to it. It's very, very cool. Animation is great. Um, I absolutely love, um, the way they made our main character look and feel. Um, so the way he meets Roro is Roro is actually being bullied by these adults, um, and being like picked on and stuff. And then our main character is standing on a bridge and they notice him up there, but they're like, what is he looking at? This is freaking us out. And he is got this cool like black cloak that's like billowing in the wind. Um, and he's got like this stone cold face'cause it's a mask, but it looks really good. Um, and then a demon shows up and he fights the demon and saves Roro at the same time. And de was like, that's so cool. I love that you could do that. So now I'm gonna follow you all across the place and make you be my friend at, it's, it's great.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:just the idea of like killing the demons and getting your body part back I think is so cool. That's such a cool idea. you stack that with everything else and it sounds absolutely awesome.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:It is awesome. I expect you'll watch this and be like, that was great. Eight outta 10, but X, y, z, whatever. Um, but I came out of this like, this is one of my all time favorite anime. This is, I don't have any criticisms of it. It is like, I literally can point to nothing and say that they did it wrong.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:that's
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I, I, I don't see anything wrong with it. So.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I'm gonna check it out for sure.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay. With that being said, we're gonna jump to Lauren who has an awesome topic that I'm hoping has changed a little bit since we last talked about it. Now that it's settled a little bit more, what do you have, Lauren?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:So, uh, I played until Dawn, the video game in one sitting, uh, Josh watched
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Just this last week.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Uhhuh like. Was it literally like right after?
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:day after. Yeah, at least the next day. Yeah.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:remember. Yeah. So a day after recording, uh, played it. Um, I thought it was gonna be scarier, honestly. Um, I guess I'll, I'll go off about like what I was annoyed at, which was I felt like it, it was most of the game was just me slowly walking everywhere and I was so annoyed and slowly walking everywhere. I was like a little bit annoyed that everybody was very horny, teenagers and saying like, the worst lines for like the first two to three hours. And I'm like, okay, when is somebody gonna get killed? Like. I, I think I guessed, um, spoilers, anybody who hasn't played until dawn. I'm gonna go into spoilers now. I kind of guessed that it was Josh terrorizing people with the mask, I feel like pretty early. Um, but I kept saying, I was like, there's, I'm like, there has to be more than one murderer though. And I was like, so then I started going off on all of my wild ideas of what I thought was going on, uh, which changed like every 30 minutes. So like at one point I was like, okay, so the therapist is actually one of the minors who is in his psychosis, thinks he is the therapist, and is like now trying his, going around killing people somehow in his therapy session. Um,'cause I knew something, like I caught out on the, the therapy sessions were very weird. Uh, and I was like, the backgrounds keep changing. And I was like, why am I in a murder house? And then Josh's like, are they changing or are you just waking up? And I was like, no, they're changing. I don't know. I don't know what this guy, I don't know what I am. So like, I didn't find out that like I was Josh in the, uh, things until later, um, when they revealed it. And then I was like, oh, okay, yeah, that makes sense. But, um,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:you mean you didn't realize you were Sam, you thought you were Josh, you didn't realize you were Sam.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:no, like in the, oh, I just realized that now.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:She realized it for the second time that she was Sam in the therapies, not Josh.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I, I thought I was just, well, okay. There you go. Um, uh, yeah, I was extremely angry at the ending because I had kept everybody alive, minus Josh. He got his head squeezed in by his sister, and, uh, I kept everybody alive until this very last decision, and I didn't understand what it was telling me to do. Uh, and I picked the wrong one, and almost everybody died. And I was so angry. I was so mad that I was like, no, no. I kept everybody alive. They don't all ex die in exploding house fire. That's dumb that like, at least some get wiped out by a wendigo if something like, not the house fire. That's so dumb. Anyway, I mean, it was like my own fault, but I was so mad that I'd spent all this time and it was like one decision that wiped out everybody. So yeah, that, that kind of like put a little damper on how I viewed the game
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I was like, I wanted to be like, yeah, I, I saved everybody in my foot the first time through or whatever. Um, and then everybody died and I was like, this just James Garbage. Um, was interesting because I wasn't scared by the winds at all. Um. Like, there's a lot of scenes where like it's slowly coming at you and you have to aim and shoot at it. I was like, oh, I love it when this happens because this is make, like, I thought that that was the calmest part of the game.'cause I was like, oh, so predictable. I can do this, this is fine. Um, but then like the night after, uh, in my dreams, my dreams took on to the Wendigo idea and just brewed up all these nightmarish things for me to play with. It was so great. I hated it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:like so much fun.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:It was so awful. It was like a mixture of the Ghostbusters meets when Degos and I was out of batteries for my backpack.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:you just wrote your fanfic.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:It was so bad. I, oh my gosh. Except in my dream, I was like, I just have to wait until dawn. And then I made it till Dawn, and then the Wendys kept coming at me and I was like, no. I said, Don, I'm, it's dawn. I'm safe. And I was like, holding up in this shack. And anyway, it was awful and terrible and it's way scarier than the game because I just had a sucky little vacuum and now it's outta batteries Anyway. Um, so I mean, like, I'm not mad that I played the game. I thought it was really good with like its twists and things. I think they should change, um, mechanics of how you look around and how quickly you can look around. other than that, uh, I really liked it. The, like I was set on hating all of the characters from the beginning.'cause of the prologue and then, uh, some on me. I think the only one that didn't grow on me was And then I really didn't care about Matt. Uh,'cause they kind of like didn't give him any screen time. Um, I don't know if that's just'cause of my play through and that's why he didn't like get any scream time or if that's just how it is. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:He gets less.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah, I, so like I really didn't care about Emily or Matt. Um, but the rest I kind of like, grew on me and I was like, okay, I actually want them to survive until Dawn. Um, yeah.'cause I think in my play through it was Sam, Matt, um, Chris that survived. Um, and everybody else. Oh, and, uh, Jessica lived, but everybody else died. Um, yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That wouldn't make me mad. I was mad at, um, the quarry is harder my opinion than until dawn. Until dawn. I didn't struggle that much to keep everyone alive the quarry I did. Um, and there's a decision that you make halfway through the game in the quarry where if you make the wrong one, the ending, someone will die. Like you cannot save them, they will die. And it is super frustrating. I was like, you and it's a stupid little decision, this little teeny tiny thing.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Do you want salt or sugar?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:It is almost that small, like literally almost that small.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:This will depend on if everybody lives or not. You better choose right? Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:But does this make you wanna play the quarry at all?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:um, I do not want to play it. I wanna, I will watch somebody play it, but I do not want to play it. Um, I, I told Josh, I was like, definitely not right now. Maybe later, because I was like, fuming.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:You were just that mad. You were like,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I was that mad. I was like, because like, what I, the, the decision was to flip the light or save, um, now I can't think of what his name is. Um, or save the other character. And in my mind I was like, oh, it's telling me like if I'm going to sacrifice or if I'm gonna, uh. And save just this one character or if I'm going to like flip the light on and get everybody out. And so I thought that's what it was asking me. Instead, I killed everybody. And I was like, you are not clear with this decision. It just won't make that clear right now. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:With you being so fresh on the game, I'd be super interested in what you think about the movie. Like genuinely, I'd be super interested in what you think about the movie.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:is it basically follow what the game does?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:no. It's, it's different.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Hmm. Is still like Wendys and stuff? I'm like, Wendys I think are pretty scary in, in like, like the ideas of Wendys is very scary and so that's why I was very surprised that. This game. I was like, you made a windy go. Not scary to me, like, because they're like, if you don't move, like you'll be fine. And so I was like, oh yeah, why don't we just all curl up right here right now and just wait until Dawn.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:The movie has that exact same problem.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Oh my gosh. Well because like with everybody else, they're like, uh, as I'm playing these other characters, they keep like running and all these things and I was like, girl, just drop and play dead then.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:hide in a bush.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:And then there was like literally Jessica and Matt, that's what I did every choice. I was like, just hide. And then I would have to like do the don't move thing and it was fine. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Did,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:they watch Jurassic Park?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Exactly. Yeah. So it is, uh, that little bit I was like, oh yeah, if they told me that, like catch me doing child pose all night so that I'm just staring at the ground and not moving. But um, yeah, so I like from the one horror game that Josh had me play to then playing this, I was like, because like at the very beginning too, I think they used way too many jump scares for things that didn't matter. So like, it was like getting me, but then they kept doing it to the point that I was like, oh, I'm fine now. I'm a seasoned veteran of this.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I, I think we need to get you to play some outlast or alien isolation.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I'm kind of intrigued about alien isolation. Um,'cause I wonder if I'll be scared on that one or not because like
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:You will and then you won't.'cause it does exactly what until dawn does, where you just get used to it and then it gives you a flame thrower and you're like, well now I'm not even scared. So.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Flame thrower is where it gets not scary for sure.'cause you have a way to fight back before you don't have a way to fight back. It just eats you.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I think the thing about what didn't make me scared about the Wendys is that they were doing the slow motion thing at me with the Wendys all of the time. And so I got to see all of it and I was like, this looks like a really bad CGI monkey. Um, and so like, I, I think that worked against me.'cause like, I think. Um, because I've mentioned some of my favorite, um, horror movies is like signs and, uh, the village and things like that. what's scary about them is that they do the technique of like, not showing you the whole monster. Because to me, like leaving it up to my imagination and like letting my imagination make it bigger than what it actually is, is what's scary and what gets me. Um, but if you show it in all detail to me, or if I know what the monster looks like for whatever reason, that like drops scariness for me. So,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I'm gonna ask you more about that with our shared topic.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:oh, I'm, but yeah, so I, I think I rated it a seven with Josh, uh, after I played the game. Um. I think it, it stays the same at seven. Uh, I do think that I was super mad. Came just'cause of that one choice. I was like, no.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Did it drop you down?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:rating have been higher?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I don't think so.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um,'cause that's why I was saying I'm, I'm weighted and even now that I'm like not mad about that anymore, I think it's still a seven for me because of those things of like the walking really slow them, showing the windy goes.'cause like if they would've kept it in the beginning when like that face popped up in the, um, binoculars or like when it was dragging Jessica away and then the head like popped out and then I like shot at it and stuff. If they would've kept it like that and I could only like shoot at shadows far away and it wasn't like. Always coming at me, then I think it would've been a little bit scarier for me, but
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Cool.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:then outlast and Alien Isolation won't scare at all. Because Atlas, you see the creature the entire time. It's just some creepy dude pulling a head along or something, and you have to figure out how to get past the creepy dude who's pulling the head along. But you see the creepy dude pulling the head along. It's right there.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Sort of, sort of, um, here's what I will say about until Don is, I was actually expecting Lauren to rate this higher,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:hmm,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:um, because we got to the end, she flicked the switch, the house started exploding and she paused the game. She's like, I wanna go back. I wanna change that. And um, I was like, okay. She's into it, she's really liking it. And then I was like, hold on, let's see what happens. You know, this was my first time experiencing the remastered edition.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:hmm.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:'cause I was so excited about this. I, while we were recording last week, I bought the remastered edition so I could play it with Lauren. Yeah. While we were recording. I pulled it up. I was like, I'm buying that. Um, so I can play it with Lauren. And the entire time I was having a great time with it. I felt like she was having a great time with it. It, I, I agree. It wasn't very scary. I think they needed to turn the brightness down on that game, way down.'cause like on my screen, what she was streaming, she would like lift a lantern so that you could see, but I could already see what was going on. There's the whole reveal of the skeleton with the lighter. And I was like, okay. I could see the skeleton the whole time. Um, so like the brightness definitely has come way down. Uh, they definitely need to, I don't know about never show the window go, but like build up to it, show it, show like the, the claw show part of the face, you know, different stuff like that. Um, it was definitely very interesting for me to see the changes between the original and the remaster version.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:the actual game different.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yes.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay. Interesting.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:they've made it goer for sure. Um, the entire prologue is completely different. Um,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I like the
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:they made some changes, they just expounded on it, so everything makes a little bit more sense.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:think it was a good choice. Um, and instead of it being you build up to it, then it being a flashback, they do the preset up beforehand.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:So I think it makes more sense chronologically. Um, it was also a good refresher'cause in my mind the movie had nothing to do with the game and actually watching it, I'm like, oh yeah, that's in the movie. Oh yeah, that's in the movie.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Hmm.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:So it's not as far off as I had originally thought. Um, but I, even though it wasn't like scary, I felt like Lauren and I were having a really great time with it. Uh, there's the scene where Lauren made all the choices to where the deer were like surrounding our characters on the cliff heads, and she's just like, they're gonna sense my spirit and I'm gonna just walk through. And I'm like, yep. The video game dear, I can sense that you're an animal lover. And then she just goes off and kicks some dog's head and, uh.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:this, this a replay wolf coming at me and there's like the little thing that you can like do to
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:She finds the tokens, it gives her a flash forward
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:her being friends with the wolf.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:exactly, so it's like he's my friend, so if I hit this trigger, I'm gonna pet him. And he kicks like, no, I thought I was gonna pet. I actually almost cried, but,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I did find a bone and I gave it to him. And then we were friends.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah. Um, so we were having a great time. Her hell divers experience has definitely helped out a lot.'cause watching her play, uh, QuickTime events in Detroit was like a real struggle to get stuff done. And this one, I don't think she missed a single one.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's really
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:it was,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:She was killing it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:good job.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:uh,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:more than that when I first played it.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I think Detroit become human. I don't think that I clicked any of the right ones.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:was a few times, but we celebrated. We were like, Hey, you hit it, and then you would miss the next one because we were celebrating you hitting one.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah, yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um, yeah, I did enjoy like that. And then there's like the part where you're walking through. Um, and it's the guy with the dog making it through the sanitarium. And the whole time I was like, Josh, if this dog dies, I'm immediately shutting this off. But the dog lived and the, an achievement popped up and it's like, oh, the dog survived. The sanitarium was like, he could have died. I was like, burned this game.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Hmm.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:yeah, so I thought she was gonna rate it a little bit higher. Um, I'm not mad at her cho her choice of a seven outta 10. Um, I've actually cooled off on it. I'd be a lot closer to that with my rating as well. Um, my memory of it was definitely a lot higher than the reality of it. Um, even I was getting really exhausted with how much that they were just talking inappropriately to each other at the beginning. Um.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:it's so bad. Like, I'm like, doesn't work anybody.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah, just the like worst B movie kind of lines just over and over and over again. And then they finally give you a break with the cute little snowball fight. And you go, okay, it's finally a couple doing something cute. And then it immediately turns into, now do you want a bone here in the snow? And it's like, oh my gosh, shut up. And then you cut over to Emily and I forgot the, her boyfriend's name, who he, she's very clearly cheating on.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:they're just like flirting and then calling each other terrible names and then flirting really hard. And you're like, just
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Stop.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:different ways. Just shove her off the cliff and move on with your life and make the world a better place.'cause she sucks so much. Um, uh, but yeah, I would've said like the Cory is not nearly as good as un until dawn. But now that I've seen un until Don a lot more recently, the last time I played the quarry was when it came out. Um, so I'll be playing it again, um, hopefully soon, but like, they're a lot closer in quality than I would've predicted
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:before this. But
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Well, and like, uh, right after that I watched Josh play. Was it like an, it was just the very beginning
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:it was the prologue of Macquarie. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Hmm.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:And I was like, that scared me way more than all of until.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Really?
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah. The witch in the forest at the beginning is genuinely really well done.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Because like as they're crashing, she appears in the backseat, but they don't make a big deal about it. She's, she's just there.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:It is just nuanced.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:and I saw it and I was like, that set the tone and I don't like it. I'm like, that was, that was very well done for. Freaked out. Thanks. Um,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Um, which is actually why I like the movie Woman in Black so much. It's because they do that more
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:mm,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:than a lot of other horror movies. But yeah, I, I'm glad you had a pretty good time with it. I wish you would've liked it a little bit more, but seven out of ten's not bad.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah. I was like, I, I'm not mad. I played it. I'm glad. Well, I mean, if you asked me, oh, I was very mad, but I'm not mad that I played it. Um, I like, I don't know.'cause like I've heard whisperings of this game for. While, um, and I was glad I didn't have anything ruined for me when I played it. Uh, and I do think it was a very interesting thing to have, like you think that it's just Josh being, uh, doing this psychological horror to his friends, and then you realize that there's more going on. But like, as I was finding all the clues and reading and like all of my, my janky ideas that I kept spouting out what I thought was happening, um, because I was like, okay, there's minors, also the natives, and then also there's this one guy who wants to kill the family, which I realize was all planted by Josh to like, um, make them think that there was some psycho out there, um, when it was really just him. and um, yeah, so I did like that aspect of it, of like me trying to piece it together. Um. But then it was kind of interesting to me. I, I also was kind of mad how the one guy who had been putting away the Wendys and like capturing them and stuff killed on a little outing to check to see if Josh was okay. Like, I was like, come on. I feel like he would've done better than that. But yeah, all in all,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:these people. It's like, you suck. You suck so bad. Come on. Do better
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, I, like, I don't think, I don't think I ever would've played this game just by myself. Like I would need to have somebody like it with me to enjoy it. So I definitely enjoyed it a lot more having Josh like, watch me play it so.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah. I wouldn't have, yeah, I don't even think I, I wouldn't have played it alone. It's not a game I would've played alone.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah. And not because I'm like, oh, I'm too scared to play it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah. It's just, it's a group game. This is a fun group game.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah, it definitely riffs off of being able to riff off the game a little bit and laugh about how stupid the teenagers are.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, it's one of the things I love about it.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:it was, it was funny'cause at one point I was like, where's Sam? She went to go have a bath like five hours ago. Like she, and I'm like, everybody's gone. How is she still in the bath? I was like, I, and then Josh was like, you would be too. And I was like, no I wouldn't. I would've heard all these screaming and everything. He was like, not, you were like listening to your music and stuff. And I was like, could be listening to music in a bath. And then it like shows her and she's listening to music in the bath with her headphones. It was pretty funny.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay, we're gonna leave it. With that, we're gonna go on to my topic now. Uh, my last topic, uh, for this episode is a show called Chad Powers. Uh, little bit of background because neither of you are really sports people. Uh, Eli Manning, um, famous quarterback, uh, for YouTube, um, went undercover, uh, to a college, um, just to like be funny and whatever, and make a YouTube. And he goes under the pseudonym of Chad Powers. Uh, for whatever reason, this decided to become. The premise for a show called Chad Powers, where Glen Powell plays an F Boy football player, um, who drops the ball on the one yard line in the final game of the playoffs. Blowing his whole career, gets really mad, punches a dad that falls onto a cancer patient's son and knocks them onto the ground and he blows up his whole life, uh, because he is just too f boy, I guess. Anyway, um, a team that is made up in Georgia call, uh, decides that they need a quarterback so they hold open tryouts. Six years after, um, uh, Glen Powell's character blows up his career, and so he decides he's going to put it on a bunch of makeup, drop the F Boy attitude and become Chad Powers, West Virginia Forest loving weirdo to get his second chance at football. Um, it's not the most serious show I admit. Um, but it did make me laugh a lot and it did make me root for Glen Powell's character. There's a female coach on the coaching staff and he starts to fall in love with her, obviously. And she actually has a similar kind of background story where she kinda lost everything and her dad is the head coach, so she got this job through nepotism and she isn't being taken very seriously on the coaching staff. And Glen Powell's character gets really, really, you know, into her. But he can't do anything'cause she's the coach. So he decides to go to a bar as his old character, uh, or his old, yeah, his real identity, quote unquote. And just, you know, so he gets drunk, he meets this girl, he sleeps with her in his, um, cyber truck. She makes fun of football and says, why did PE anybody take this any seriously? It's just a stupid football game. He gets mad'cause he's a football player and she even recognized him as a football player, but he figured it's just a one night stand, whatever. Okay? We fast forward to, uh, he's doing really well. SportsCenter and ESPN wanna do a special on him. And what they decide to do is he's gonna have a dinner with the coaches family to talk about the upcoming big game, right? So he goes, um, shows up at this thing. He says We're, uh, Chad Powers character, um, when, who walks in to this dinner, coaches wife. Who also happens to be his one night stand from the night before. And so they're sitting there, he's having the most uncomfortable dinner of his entire life. ESPN is like, Hey, let's have the wife talk about how hard it is to be The wife's the, uh, the coach's wife. And so she starts blowing. She's like, I, I freaking hate it. So ESPN is like, holy shit, we gotta step away. So they leave and it's just, uh, Glen Powell, the daughter that he's into, the coach and the coach's wife and the coach's wife spurts out. I hooked up with Russell in the back of his cyber truck last night because our marriage is so bad. X, Y, z, whatever. And so the coach loses his mind and he throws his keys and he turns back to the camera and he goes. What the fuck is a cyber truck? And it's just so fun. That's the kind of show that this is. It's meant to just be a whole big laugh. Um, but you do actually start to care about Glen Powell's character. Um, he plays the F Boy thing really well. The stuff he does. Like he's trying to make up his background, his backstory, whatever. And he's like, uh, the coach asks, how many people have you played in front of before? And he's like, oh, well that depends. And they're like, depends on what, he's like the wolves. They're like the wolves. And he's like, well, they like to feed when it's a full moon. So depending on the night we played, the wolves would scare off the children. And you're like, what the freak is this guy talking about? Um. He gets a friend who also plays the mascot and the mascot is gay and so he can help with the makeup and all this kinds of stuff. It is a very funny show. Um, I, I would compare it to Ted Lasso in the fact that it's a silly premise, but also deals with a bunch of serious stuff, um, but not near as good as Ted Lasso. Don't go into it thinking this is Ted Lasso. It's just the same kind of thing. Like what if he put up on makeup and got a second chance at football and instead of, what if he went to England and became a soccer coach? Kind of a thing. Um, it is absolutely wa worth watching. I'm loving it. Um, I'm a little upset because I was talking to Conlin about this. He was here in Hawaii. He and his wife went and did something all day, so I had binge watched all but the last episode and they were building up to this big moment with like the big. Game of the season versus Georgia. And there was, I knew there was only one episode left, but I had to wait a week and I finally got to see it and it's a cliffhanger and they still haven't even been renewed for a season two, which makes me angry. But if they do a season two, I will absolutely watch it. I'm having a great time with it. I'm giving it an 8.4 out of 10. It's a great job,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:solid.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:having a great time.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, I, I've been wanting a funny show. Um, trying 30 rock right now. It's kind of hit or miss. I might give this a shot.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I, I'm having a great time with it. It's hard for me to recommend.'cause I don't know, like as a college football fan, there's a lot of stuff that I'm just accepting because college football, I don't know if it matters or not, though. I'm, but I am enjoying it. I give it a shot. Let, let me know what you think.'cause. It is only six episodes and they're not very long. Uh, this is the one Lauren that I was talking about where the end credits was different music. Um, some of them are Phantom of the Opera that I was belting. That's from this show. Yeah.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:But okay. With that, let's hop down to our shared topic this week. Uh, we're gonna start with Lauren'cause she recommended a horror thing for us. So why don't you tell us what it is and what you thought Lauren.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:so come play is, um. A horror thriller where, uh, it follows this main character that's a kid who's autistic. He only speaks through his tablet. Um, but something's talking to him through his tablet, um, as well. And like, I thought it was kind of a good, uh, premise where it was like, um, he's this story of this creature named Larry that's like lonely because, um, this main character, he can't friends. People are, uh, he's getting bullied for being autistic, um, and being different. And so then this story about Larry pops up onto his, um, iPad and it's like talking about, it's kind of mirroring what this kid's going through. He is like, oh, Larry's different. Larry wants a friend because he's misunderstood and lonely. Um. then, uh, it starts saying like, you need to finish the, this book to invite Larry to your world, uh, so that you guys won't be lonely anymore. But it's like saying stuff like, if you look through the window, LA or like Larry will look at you through the window and stuff like that. And it keeps, um, so I thought this was kind of creepy at the beginning when it was saying like, yeah, he's looking you through this, and somebody starts reading this story, like the lights will start flickering. Uh, because apparently Larry will travel through electricity and that's like, kind of like his gateway into our world. Um, so yeah, that, that's like the main gist of it is that they're like trying not to finish the book so that, uh, well, the mom finds out at one point that there's something. Trying to take her kid, but she doesn't really piece everything together. She just thinks that it's somebody who's threatening to take her kid and is speaking to her through the tablet, through the little word things that, um, her son uses. And I thought that that was actually pretty interesting. And I suggested this movie because I saw the very ending on TikTok and I was like, oh, that's, wanna know how we got here and what happens like after. Um, and that part was where, uh, Larry's like to, uh, accept to be Larry's friend. You take his hand and then Larry will take you back to his world and then your friends or whatever, but probably more sinister and, um. So Larry's like holding his hand out to the autistic kid, and the kid's like reaching out, but then the mom grabs Larry's hand before the kid can, she says, I'll be, I'll be your friend Larry. And I was like, I'm like, I feel like this is such a really good, uh, like this would really hit if I watch the whole movie, like the, the self-sacrificing thing. but I think it was just like very, I, I wasn't scared at all throughout this movie. Like it didn't feel intense at me, intense for me throughout any of it. And I don't know if it's because I knew that scene was going to happen, um, or, um, yeah, I, I wasn't freaked out at all. Uh, other than I think also in my mind I was like, dude, Larry just wants a friend. Like stop freaking out. He just alone like.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:He's just a lonely dude.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Just bitch, somebody take this man's hand. He needs a friend. Um, and so like the mom takes his hand and then she like, I felt like that part was unnecessary where her face kind of gets all creepy and like not, and then all of a sudden she just vanishes. Um, when she's like smiling at her son, I was like, yeah, let's just traumatize your son further. I don't think that she actually knew that she freak him out. and then like later, uh, it seems like Larry's back trying to get the kid after he took the mom. But then you realize it's the mom visiting the kid and he's like, twirling, she's twirling him around the living room and the dad's like using his phone to see that she's there. Uh,'cause he was scared. It was Larry again, but then ended up being his wife and he's like, oh. My heart and then it ended. Um, so I, yeah, I, I wasn't impressed. I was kind of sad that I felt like it was lackluster to me. Um, I felt like that scene would mean more if I had watched the movie in its entirety.'cause there was like, she says, I love you, I love all of you. And that's where I was like, Ooh, that intrigues me to want to see the whole movie. And then, yeah, know it. Yeah. I, I, I, what do you guys think?
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Well, what did you rate it on a scale of one to 10?
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Four.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I thought it would freak you out a little bit more where they don't show the creature a whole lot until
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I mean, they have the little, um.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Book.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:it shows like what type of, and it's like they're going for like a slenderman thing.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, for sure.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I disagree.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:you know,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That's
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Slenderman.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I thought.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:No, it's very clearly the monsters from Scooby-Doo monsters unleashed.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:It does kind of look like that
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:it looks exactly like that. It looks like they were like, Hey, we don't have a lot of budget, so let's take the scuba doo monsters and do it in the Scott style of Spy Kids 3D and hope that the plot carries this,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:because that's what it looks like.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah. I think the only thing that spooked me was when they're like, he looks at you through the window and I was like, are my blinds closed? Yes, they are. Okay, good. That was the only thing that kind of got me, but yeah. a bit. I was just like, Larry just wants a friend, guys. Just give him one. The kid wants a friend too. Match me.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, I was, it was kind of like a monsters ink kind of a thing.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah, a little bit. Yeah.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:who lives under your closet. It's just a nice dude. Just, just, just, hey, out. It's cool.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:He's really bad at, at, um, standup, but he's trying to get into it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay. Conline, what did you think of this movie?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I am quite a bit more positive on this movie than Lauren. Um, I think doing a good monster movie is extremely hard to do and there are very, very few of them. I think this is a pretty passable, pretty good movie. I don't think it's great, but it's pretty good. biggest problem with this movie is I don't think the mom is a good actress. Like, and it's an annoying, like she's just not bad. If she was just bad, I'd be like, oh, she just sucked. I was like, you should be better than you are'cause you're not good, but you're not horrible. And it was more annoying that if she was just bad, um, I think if they would've replaced this main actress with somebody else who was better. This movie goes up quite a bit in my head because I think the monster is actually fairly effective. Um, I do think it is kind of a, he just wants to be friends, so just be friends.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:could. It could have been better. Like the writing could have been better, the acting could have been better, but none of it was awful to me. And it made for an enjoyable time. Like I had had a good time with this movie. Overall, I think this movie sets up a far more interesting movie and we should get a sequel and this would literally go on my list
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:There is the sequel.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I have to watch that they won't do what I want them to do. But I would love this if the mom, there's so many different stories where you have this overbearing mother who won't let go of their child and I could see her becoming this, but he can't escape it.'cause everywhere in the world there's just technology and anywhere there's technology, he has to, he has to connect with his overbearing mother. I would love that movie. And he is like older, he is like 16 or 17. He's aged up a little bit. He doesn't wanna be with his mom all the time. That would be fascinating if the creators of this movie. See create that movie?'cause that would be better than this movie. think this is a, it's rated A, a 5.8 on IMDB. I think that's a little low. I'd probably give like a 6.5. I think it's a decent fun little time. I
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:the actresses, uh, Gillian Jacobs and I was like, the whole time I was trying to think of what she is on and seen her on community, that's where I know her from.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Oh, okay. I couldn't figure out who it was either. I was like, know, I know you from something.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah. Should change your hair color.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:she is in this movie. She just should,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:she's on a freaking bear. Yeah. She should be better than she's in this movie,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:yeah. And that can all be up to like directors too.'cause sometimes directors really screw over actors and actresses and stuff.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:but I don't feel like anyone else is as bad. Like the kid does a pretty good job. The father does a pretty good job. She's not very good.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:I, um, the kid who played Oliver, I couldn't, I disagree. His acting, I was like, I couldn't tell if he was like intrigued or like scared at sometimes. So I, I was like, I would get mixed signals with him of what was actually supposed to be going on. And to have like a nonverbal character, you need to be able to nail that. Um, so I think that also was, I was like, because at first I wasn't sure if Oliver's like, yeah, I want a friend. Let's make him be my friend. I wanna go. And then I was like, oh, wait, no, he is scared. Wait, is he scared? So like, yeah. Anyway, I.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:All right.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Well that
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:do you
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:went exactly as I predicted.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Really,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I watched this movie and I was like, Collin's gonna kind of like it. Lauren's not really gonna kinda like get Conlin. Brief prediction. What do you think I'm gonna say about this movie?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:um, I honestly thought you were gonna have a good time with it too. Be fairly similar to me, is what I thought.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Okay, I'm lower than Lauren on this movie. I hate this movie. This movie is total crap. It has zero redeeming qualities. Um, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it as much as you did. Um, I thought the plot sucked. Um, I didn't find it scary at all. I thought the monster looked like the monsters from Scooby do, and that was not terrifying at all. It was rather funny. I am still confused to this day on how that monster even works because you have to accept it to be your friend. And if you don't. Then what Conlan, why did the mom sacrifice herself? Couldn't she have just been like, no, whatcha gonna do now?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:way maybe to get it to go away.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Except it's on a timer. They established it's on a timer. It doesn't have infinite time.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:You're
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:So they could have just been, they could have just sat crust arms staring at dead in the face and being like, what now bitch, whatcha gonna do?
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:And they haven't shown that it's willing to be super violent. Like it, it threw the kid into a corner, but that's really all it does.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah. It's like, I get that this would be terrifying to experience, but the way they displayed it, I'm like, I don't, is light, it's weakness or it's strength. I still don't know'cause. They kind of establish that like it burns when the light comes on. Yeah. But then they turn off all the lights and I'm like, shine your flashlight at it, moron. Like, whatcha doing? You have one in your hand. It's called a phone. Um, I, all of those reasons or reasons I didn't like it. I actually didn't have a problem with any of the acting. Um, I agree with Lauren that the kid was very confusing. I didn't really know whether he was scared or interested or wanted to be the friend or was whatever. Um, the reason I hated it and the reason I felt like it worked for you, Conlin, is I think the symbology is very much depression. And so I predicted you were gonna like it.'cause just like we were talking about in our episode last week, it's always there. You know, you always come back to it and it's always there. I think they portrayed that very well. Um, I just also felt like they put depression in this box. That said, loneliness is the only cause of it. And if you just have a friend, you'll never feel it and it won't ever be a problem. And also you can just leave to escape it. So I absolutely despise it for telling that message. At least in my mind, that depression is this, just this box.'cause like I have depression, I don't get to escape it ever. I can't just like go away and have it be fine. Loneliness is a big part to that, but it's not like the only thing that causes it or triggers it or whatever. And even then they kept telling you that it's it. This de depression is born and grows through loneliness. But why was that kid so lonely? Like he had a mom and dad who loved him very much, took care of him, gave all them these things. He had a friend. Yeah, he kinda lost that friend for a little bit, but like. Got that front back too. And there was just not this like impending doom feeling at all through the movie. Like the mom sacrificed herself and I was like, that was unnecessary. And then they show him like twirling around and I'm like, so he lost nothing. He literally lost
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:the
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:nothing. This cost him nothing. They didn't deal with the monster. They didn't fight it. They accepted it and everything is fine now. Like I just.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:In fact, the mom might be able to communicate better because they can communicate through technology
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:It.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:they want.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:It did seem like it was like this whole thing bettered their family because like she was complaining about how she's like, I'm always like, I have to be the strict one. He doesn't like me because I'm the one taking him to his doctor's appointment. And then you just show up and you get to be fun and all of that. And then I'm back to being like, I don't get to have those fun times. But now that she's like gone now, she just gets the fun times with them and the dad now has to do all of the like strict things. And I was like.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:They're gonna get a robot. She's gonna run that robot. They're gonna have blender. Immediately. Turns on Ultimate Smart House. It
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:He's like, we're going to the countryside where we're now having a composite toilet, a well and, uh, no power Candlelight.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:candlelight always. No, I think this movie actually works better as a fantasy movie rather than a horror movie. Even though I, it is, I, it's a good creature feature. I think it works better as a fantasy movie.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh, I don't think it's good creature feature. I don't think the Scooby-Doo monsters are terrifying at all. I think that they were even look even worse in this movie than they do in Scooby-Doo.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:are outta your freaking mind. No, no. Sorry. No. They look like trash. And Scooby do. No,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:agree. Yep. I agree with you 100%
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:look way better in this. It looks way better in this movie. It's not even close.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:completely.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:better.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:You know. Um, so yeah, I am giving this a two out of 10. Because I hate it. It's just a garbage movie. I wish I hadn't had watched this movie. That's how much I hate it. It just made me angry. That's all it really did.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:That sucks.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah, sorry.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Sorry Lauren. I wanted to like, I wanted to like it. I really did. I wanted you to like it. I was very excited when you were like, here's a horror movie I wanna watch. I even pulled it up. I put the sequel on there too, and then we found out what the sequel was and I was like, okay, nevermind. But I really was excited for this one. I really wanted to like it as I hated everything about this movie,
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Um, I was really disappointed that the, uh, the mom sacrificing herself wasn't I thought it was gonna be.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Why a two and not a one?
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:uh, because. I think the premise is okay,
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Okay.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:if they would've actually like flushed out and thought about this premise, like the thing was, you know, afraid of the light or whatever, then I would've liked it a lot more. But I was sitting like, I was like, why, why not just not deal with it? Like, just the option to do nothing is right there and there's no threat of anything happening otherwise, like they say, it'll kill your loved ones if you don't say yes to being its friend. But then they're also like, finish the book and it's fine. And it's like, okay, finish the book. Then like as, uh, it, it didn't really, it wasn't flushed out.
lauren--fellowship-_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Uh, it definitely needed a rewrite
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:fair.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:20 times over. Um, I think it could have been there. Um, I actually didn't like him being special needs. I think it would've been better if it was like selective mutism, like
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I agree.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:mom accidentally hit him with a car or something like that and he just hasn't talked since then. Like there's actually like trauma there. I think it would've worked better. Like there's enough there that I'm like, okay, if you were to tweak this and tweak that and change that and make it an entirely different monster and change the way it's filmed and have a different director and make the actors do a little bit better job and, you know, change the scenery and change the plot and change everything about it.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:my,
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Movie.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:my other negative that I didn't bring up and it, I don't know, it debated me dropping it lower because of this. I was like, when do you make fun of a kid with mental disabilities like that? Even guys who like, when you're 10 years old, 12 years old, 13-year-old, you can be pretty damn harsh with each other. If you make fun of a kid with autism that was getting canceled before canceled was a thing, like you would just get socially destroyed. You don't make fun of a kid with autism and it didn't feel authentic where maybe if he was selectively mute, there'd be, but he was normal. Otherwise, there'd be more of a, I can buy this, but I didn't buy that. They would make fun of, or pick on or push down a kid that was like that. I just don't.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:I agree completely and like it even would've made sense with how they were making fun of him because he would've been getting special treatment
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Yeah.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:for a different reason than he just isn't capable. Um.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:Which even if you're the biggest jackass in school, just on a, I don't want to be socially ostracized level, you don't make fun of that kid.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah. Um, so yeah, it's, it's just not very good. I, I did originally give it a one, but I was like, okay, it's not the worst thing I've ever seen, so it can have a two. So that's what I landed on.
konlin-gappmayer_1_11-04-2025_162808:I originally gave it a six, but I was like, I had a decent time with that movie, so I bumped it up.
joshua-dietrich_1_11-04-2025_132813:Yeah. Just did not work for me. So, sorry. Um, I was originally just going to hop on and be like, I hated it. Moving on. And, but, uh, anyway, uh, I think we'll leave it there. Um, thank you anybody for watching and or listening. Uh, please let us know. Uh, what horror movie you watched for Halloween and if it was any good and if we should try watching it. Uh, you can't recommend anything worse than come play if you ask me. So let us know. Uh, you guys have a great day and remember to be better today than yesterday.
